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Useless, inflexible JobCentrePlus

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  • Blobby8_2
    Blobby8_2 Posts: 2,009 Forumite
    Tankrizzo wrote: »
    Sounds to me like signing off would be the best thing, you clearly can't be bothered so why waste their time and your own?
    2 yr old & 6 month old to look after, doesnt sound like a jobseeker does it ?
  • persa
    persa Posts: 735 Forumite
    You never know what life will throw at you - if you can get your stamp paid now, you may as well take it.

    OP, I don't think you were in the right, but I can understand why you reacted the way you did, given that your DD had been poorly and you were probably still fretting about her. Glad to hear she's better now, though. :)

    Have a little patience next time and good luck finding work soon.
  • allen35
    allen35 Posts: 1,516 Forumite
    persa wrote: »
    You never know what life will throw at you - if you can get your stamp paid now, you may as well take it.

    OP, I don't think you were in the right, but I can understand why you reacted the way you did, given that your DD had been poorly and you were probably still fretting about her. Glad to hear she's better now, though. :)

    Have a little patience next time and good luck finding work soon.

    My thoughts exactly and jobcentres aren't always the most welcoming of places to sit around in with a 2 yr old for any length of time....
    Forums can be/are a good guide to entitlement and it is good practice to back it up with clarification from the relevant department/specialist with written confirmation to safeguard yourself.
  • karenx
    karenx Posts: 4,988 Forumite
    So was that person not to have a lunch break that day as you were coming in at some point?? Were they to miss their lunch just incase when you turned up and they were meant to be on their break????
    You missed your time which meant you kept them waiting wondering if you were coming or not. When they could of been doing something else. Then you show up and just expect to be seen straight away????
  • MrsManda
    MrsManda Posts: 4,457 Forumite
    Could you not have given the JCP more notice so they could fit you in at a specific time slot? Unless it was an emergency appointment with a consultant you usually get some notice of the appointment date and time.

    They seem to have been willing to accommodate you even though you didn't call them until after your sign on time which is good of them and shows they are flexible. However by refusing to wait 20 minutes because someone was having a lunch break surely shows it's you who is inflexible?

    They can sanction your JSA (so presumably including N.I. credits though I'm not certain) for upto 26 weeks for non-attendance. You are welcome to give up JSA as you obviously don't find it useful. Plus as a parent of a child under 12 yrs old you are entitled to Class 3 credits anyway.
    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Taxes/BeginnersGuideToTax/NationalInsurance/IntroductiontoNationalInsurance/DG_190059
  • Arg
    Arg Posts: 931 Forumite
    nannytone wrote: »
    i'm sorry to hear about your little girl, but regarding the JCP...
    THAT ISN@T THEIR PROBLEM!!!

    isn't the person you sign on with entitled to a lunch break.....after all they DO work!

    i find your attitude really bad, considering a lot of the people on here that give advice to people like you. actually work for JCP.

    If most people working in the jobcentre were actually useful, people wouldn't need to ask on forums for advice although theres just as many bellends in this thread as there are at the jobcentre.
  • WhiteHorse
    WhiteHorse Posts: 2,492 Forumite
    I got back home about 20 mins after my sign on time so I called the JCP helpline who put me through to my local JCP and I explained my circumstance and the woman said I could come to the office to sign on as long as it was before 16:30.
    That's reasonable.
    I handed my booklet to a member of staff, after about 5 mins I was told I couldn't sign on just yet as the person I sign on with was at lunch (NOT MY PROBLEM!) and that i'd have to loiter around for 20 mins before I could sign on with that person.
    Now that is stupid.
    I told the woman I wasn't waiting around as I was only signing on for my stamp(credits) and told her to forget it considering what I was told before I turned up at the place - considering it takes an adviser about 2 mins to bring my details up, call me over and for me to sign my name, what's the big issue?
    It would have been better to wait. After all, it was only 20 minutes.
    I'm thinking of signing off anyway, what's the point if i'm not getting any financial assistance?
    You would have done, if you hadn't thrown a wobbly!
    "Never underestimate the mindless force of a government bureaucracy
    seeking to expand its power, dominion and budget"
    Jay Stanley, American Civil Liberties Union.
  • ekkygirl
    ekkygirl Posts: 514 Forumite
    We had to take our 6 month old girl to hospital today which coincided with my sign on time, she's fine but needs to see a consultant now for further checks.

    Anyway, I got back home about 20 mins after my sign on time so I called the JCP helpline who put me through to my local JCP and I explained my circumstance and the woman said I could come to the office to sign on as long as it was before 16:30. I took my other daughter who is 2 with me to the job centre and I handed my booklet to a member of staff, after about 5 mins I was told I couldn't sign on just yet as the person I sign on with was at lunch (NOT MY PROBLEM!) and that i'd have to loiter around for 20 mins before I could sign on with that person.

    Yeah Right! I told the woman I wasn't waiting around as I was only signing on for my stamp(credits) and told her to forget it considering what I was told before I turned up at the place - considering it takes an adviser about 2 mins to bring my details up, call me over and for me to sign my name, what's the big issue?

    I'm thinking of signing off anyway, what's the point if i'm not getting any financial assistance?

    I dont think you would have had to wait 20 minutes, you could have left then and called back later before 4.30.

    If you are the main carer for your children I think you would be able to claim stamp for the time you were at home with them. You would not need to sign on to get the stamp/credit.
    I could be wrong so don't shout at me
  • shellsuit
    shellsuit Posts: 24,749 Forumite
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    What was the big problem hanging on for 20 minutes?

    At least they were willing to allow you to sign on late.

    They were neither useless nor inflexible in this case.
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  • melbi_uk
    melbi_uk Posts: 438 Forumite
    I have had to wait longer than 20 mins to see my doctor and I did have an appointment.

    Agreed, you were probably still very worried and stressed over the morning events.

    Perhaps an apology is in order the next time you go to sign on.
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