not looking disabled?!

nannytone_2

blind people can get a BB too, and they (at the moment) only get LRM so HRM isnt a prerquisite.

daska

sunnyone wrote: »

I turned down a powerchair for years because it would have been any good to me but I had to get one when I couldnt manage a manual anymore, the NHS fund wheelchairs where there is clinical need, you must have the need daska to have one at all, have you had the senior therapist to look at why you cant use the one you have now to see if they can provide something that you can use?

If they cant you would have a cast iron case for a powerchair, it must be worth a go.

I could walk with crutches when I turned down the powerchairs and the assessment did cover wether your home is suitable to wheel around but it didnt say that you had to be wheelchair bound.

tralia HRM dosnt come into wheelchair provision on the NHS, have you discussed your needs with the senior assessor?

There are none powered wheelchair aids to help people who have hand/arm problems and I dont know if these would help you?

I hope you took a wheelchair trailia, if you havnt you will never get a powerchair but if you have one and its no good you just keep telling them why and asking what they can do to help you, you might wear them down if you continually ring, I did and got a fancy light weight a few years ago.

I certainly have the need and I have asked repeatedly why they insist on my having a w'chair I can't use, the only response is that their rules state that you can only be considered for a powerchair if you have to use a manual chair indoors.

Hey Ho! For most purposes my scooters do what I need and have the benefit of carrying DS2 and/or more luggage than a powerchair. When I get stuck is when I need to catch a train which can't (which in most cases is more like won't) accommodate a scooter, which means I can't travel independently.

sunnyone

daska wrote: »

I certainly have the need and I have asked repeatedly why they insist on my having a w'chair I can't use, the only response is that their rules state that you can only be considered for a powerchair if you have to use a manual chair indoors.

Hey Ho! For most purposes my scooters do what I need and have the benefit of carrying DS2 and/or more luggage than a powerchair. When I get stuck is when I need to catch a train which can't (which in most cases is more like won't) accommodate a scooter, which means I can't travel independently.

You should have a powerchair if you need one, diffrent aids for diffrent situations gives the most freedom when you are mobility impaired, could you use a powerchair indoors if you needed too?

I cant use a scooter, the problems with my hands/arms prevent me from using one but they are much cheaper and so available for a larger group of disabled people but the none disabled people who use them as personel transport make people see them as for the person with a touch of the rumatics (or whatever coloculism {manual edit?} you choose) which must make it harder for the people that need to use them.

Trialia

sunnyone wrote: »

tralia HRM dosnt come into wheelchair provision on the NHS, have you discussed your needs with the senior assessor?

There are none powered wheelchair aids to help people who have hand/arm problems and I dont know if these would help you?

I hope you took a wheelchair trailia, if you havnt you will never get a powerchair but if you have one and its no good you just keep telling them why and asking what they can do to help you, you might wear them down if you continually ring, I did and got a fancy light weight a few years ago.

The part about HRM was addressing Daska's last comment - basically saying that if the NHS won't let me have a powered chair, I can't afford to get one by myself.

I'm really starting to worry though, there is a threat of losing funding to my local Shopmobility and if they do that, I won't be able to go out anything like as much as I currently manage - I can only walk so far with only my walking sticks without running myself into the ground, and it isn't very.

Why do I have trouble using a manual chair? Well, because my shoulders, wrists and fingers (and most of my other joints too, but they're the relevant ones here) dislocate at the slightest wrong angle or pressure on a good day - on a bad day, they're even worse. That's why I can't self-propel - even with any aids I've seen. I live alone, I can't rely on my carer being there when I need to go out.

No, I don't. Mostly because although my current GP agrees I will need one full-time sometime in the next couple of years, she also thinks that there's no point in harassing the hospital so long as I'm trying to do my best not to use one unless I'm out shopping or at the hospital. That said, we're going to have to re-evaluate that if they do scrap SM for the city, because I won't have access to mobility help beyond my stick then, and I cannot manage going around town more than from the bus stop to chapel without it, most of the time.

Unfortunately, I also can't "continually ring" anyone - phobia of telephone calls because I struggle to process unfamiliar voices out of the feedback that comes with phones. But if it comes to that, I could always go in every time I'm at the hospital - once a week or more! =P

daska

sunnyone wrote: »

You should have a powerchair if you need one, diffrent aids for diffrent situations gives the most freedom when you are mobility impaired, could you use a powerchair indoors if you needed too?

I cant use a scooter, the problems with my hands/arms prevent me from using one but they are much cheaper and so available for a larger group of disabled people but the none disabled people who use them as personel transport make people see them as for the person with a touch of the rumatics (or whatever coloculism {manual edit?} you choose) which must make it harder for the people that need to use them.

TBH yes, there are times when I can't use either one of my scooters, the little scooter does at least let me lean forward and rest my head when I'm really tired which has, on occasion, been the only way I've managed to get home and not fall off en-route. But with DS2 having delayed development I need my chopper style scoot to transport him safely when we're out unaccompanied (he walks under the wheels or runs away if I use my little one). You have inspired me to have another push for a w'chair that meets my needs. Will write this time, asking for their justification for giving me a chair that they know I am unable to use.

birkee

My understanding, was that disabled bays are for people with mobility problems. (98% of people I see using them, maybe 99%, don't seem to have these problems. O.K. so there are hidden problems, but at these percentages?

The reason I comment, is that it's a bit frustrating when I need a bay, I can't get one as like as not, and if I park elewhere, I have to get my wheelchair out of the car, and go all the way round the outside of the parked cars, because I can't get through between them.

The idiot above, who said they are sitting down, they don't need them, needs to try it. Yes .... I self propel mine, as my Wife has had two heart bypasses, and pushing the chair stresses her previously split sternum. It's also the case, I've bought my own lightweight chair, because I have to operate it myself.
Go on.... say it! Why don't you have an electric chair then! And who gets to lift it in and out of the car? My Wife who can manage about 20 pounds, or me, with my damaged back? Yes, I can stand briefly, long enough to get the chair out, but I'll soon be beyond that also.

From my perspective, BB seem to get handed out for almost anything, and YES, I do recognise there are conditions that warrant them that can't be seen. It's just the percentage that don't seem to need any help that makes me suspicious.

sheeps68

Well just to be different I got challenged for use of disabled loo yesterday. Makes a change from a car park blue badge space. The normal ones were on a different level and I knew I wouldnt make a steep set of stairs. Lungs issues dont show as you will all know. I felt as if I had to justify myself to restaurant staff but at same time thinking why do I need to say anything.

Errata

My understanding, was that disabled bays are for people with mobility problems. (98% of people I see using them, maybe 99%, don't seem to have these problems. O.K. so there are hidden problems, but at these percentages?

You're quite correct, they are for people with mobility problems. If they were for wheelchair users only there would be a notice to that effect.

birkee

Errata wrote: »

You're quite correct, they are for people with mobility problems. If they were for wheelchair users only there would be a notice to that effect.

I said mobility problems, not for wheelchair users only!
I possibly do better in a wheelchair, than some people who don't have one.

daska

birkee wrote: »

My understanding, was that disabled bays are for people with mobility problems. (98% of people I see using them, maybe 99%, don't seem to have these problems. O.K. so there are hidden problems, but at these percentages?

The reason I comment, is that it's a bit frustrating when I need a bay, I can't get one as like as not, and if I park elewhere, I have to get my wheelchair out of the car, and go all the way round the outside of the parked cars, because I can't get through between them.

The idiot above, who said they are sitting down, they don't need them, needs to try it. Yes .... I self propel mine, as my Wife has had two heart bypasses, and pushing the chair stresses her previously split sternum. It's also the case, I've bought my own lightweight chair, because I have to operate it myself.
Go on.... say it! Why don't you have an electric chair then! And who gets to lift it in and out of the car? My Wife who can manage about 20 pounds, or me, with my damaged back? Yes, I can stand briefly, long enough to get the chair out, but I'll soon be beyond that also.

From my perspective, BB seem to get handed out for almost anything, and YES, I do recognise there are conditions that warrant them that can't be seen. It's just the percentage that don't seem to need any help that makes me suspicious.

When I get out of the car I can conceivably look like I don't need a disabled bay, when I lift the bits of my scooter out of the boot it quite possibly appears that it's for someone else, as I climb into said scooter I have no doubt that there are those who think I'm a lazy mare... however the paramedics would be grateful that on the occasion I'm spotted doing all these things (not often) I am having a really good day and not abusing my good fortune at the risk of them getting a call asking them to retrieve me from the floor and deliver me to A&E.

Personally I save my dirty looks for those who get out of their car and sprint like Linford Christie did in his prime to the cashpoint and back.