I have a vacancy but no one wants to work!

Moneywastingexpert

As others have already pointed out, the problem is probably with the job.

IMO the tone of your post is very telling: You watched the news and thought 'aha, there's lots of people desparate for any job going, i need an assistant/trainee anyway and by calling it an apprenticeship i can get away with negligible costs, so let's exploit someone by making them travel to an obscure location for next to nothing'.

I'm sure someone will eventually go for it but it's a sad story repeated across the land as people take advantage of the desparation of others.

DollyDabbler

An apprentice can be up to the age of 25, OK the funding is different, as you would pay more, the plus side might be that by expanding the age group an older person, might already have transport.

Oldernotwiser

hayton2k3 wrote: »

Pay some real money and i'll take it. £95 max per week spending almost that on travel. NO THANKS, i hope no one is silly enough to take it

What skills does a school leaver have to make him or her worth more than £2.50 per hour?

Having said that, I would expect the young person to be working towards a recognised qualification, preferably with college attendance, for it to be called an apprenticeship.

cavework

Adding in the cost of training including college and a recognised qualification at the end of training. Include expenses for attending college and I still find £2.50 per hour an insult especially as the hours are not 9 to 5 Mon to Fri
This is slave labour at it's worst .. these kids leave school with qualifications they are told they will need to get a job, they work hard to gain them .. why the heck should they then be penalised because they are just starting on the road to employment?

hcb42

given the services provided by the young person will be charged out at same rate to customers then paying them the NMW rather than this £2.50 apprenticeship rate an hour, (which is not much more than I got as a working student 24 yrs ago!) with some career development would be the right thing to do

7891368

OP most people aged 16-19 will finish the courses they are currently on (be that gcse or college level) in June/July.

The only people who would be currently available are those unemployed.

Just a thought?


But I wouldn't do it for £2.50 p/h less expenses.

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

What skills does a school leaver have to make him or her worth more than £2.50 per hour?

I got paid £4.29 doing supermarket work at 16 (4 years ago) and got paid less than adults for doing the same job.

What did they offer over me besides age?

danothy

POSSETTE wrote: »

We keep hearing about young people having no job prospects, but they dont want them!
We have had an apprenticeship vacancy offer going for a few weeks now, to learn food prep and train to be a chef.16-19 is the age range for apprenticeships, but no one has applied. If you can cook in a commercial kitchen you can travel anywhere in world and pick up a job, career for life etc...seems they dont want to work.
I will say we are a village pub and transport is needed but surely, some parents would kill to get their child a job and drive them:j

Are there any other employers out there finding the same problem?

Well I suppose there's two ways of looking at it ... they either don't want the prospects or what you're offering isn't a prospect. At the absolute bottom end of earnings and in a somewhat difficult place to get to doesn't make it sound (to me) like a great prospect to be honest, but maybe I'm lacking some of the details ...

As I see it, the value of this opportunity hinges on the qualification and the employment prospects arising at the end of it ... So my questions would be:

What qualification does your apprenticeship scheme work towards and how long does it take?
Are you guaranteeing a job at the end of it if they get the qualification?
Does the money you're offering rise as they gain skills?

If it's a decent qualification and the answer to the other two questions is yes then it's probably got some worth and you need to advertise the long term benefits, however, if you're only prepared to meet the minimum obligations in order to hire someone at £2.50 an hour then you are being exploitative (apprenticeships are intended to lead to successors not just provide cheap labour) and people will probably be able to see this prospect for what it really is if that is the case.

Jowo_2

Post your issue on the Discussion Time forum - it'll make a nice change from Daily Mail/Benefit threads (which makes me a bit of a hypocrite as I actually like them).

But amazingly, I visited my local hairdresser who is having a really tough time finding a stylist, or retaining those that she keeps on. She asked me if I knew any hairdressers looking for work. She refuses to advertise in the Job Centre now because she gets too many candidates who (in her own words) are bonkers and because she thinks they only want a job for a short period to get the JC off their back. She has request from people of her own original ethnic community but she says that too many of them are here illegally and she will not employ someone without the right papers.

She says people turn up for the interview dressing scruffy and just ramble or mumble but she says trainers are for people about to go for a run, not a job, and that she wants someone who can communicate with her clients. She says they ask for too much money compared to the qualifications/experience they have.

She says she sets a test of their competence, asking them to bring along their own models while she provides the equipment, and do different types of cuts and dying. Recently, she had an applicant bring someone along, perform next to no consultation on what the lady wanted, refused her advice about the dye because of the greyness of the models hair, and then ruined the ladies hair because it wasn't suitable.

She says that on other occasions when she's taken someone on, the moment she gives them less supervision so she can attend to her other salon, they then get sloppy and their punctuality and quality goes out the window.

Yes, I have considered that she might be very intense as a boss. She's at the end of her tether, has been looking for 3 months.

bristol_pilot

Learning to chop veggies, fry burgers and wait tables in a pub is not an 'apprenticeship' it is just cheap labour, it will not give the youngsters a marketable skill so I'm hardly surprised that there are no takers. No doubt some numpty college will offer an NVQ in skivvying but it will be worthless as a qualification in the job market. Glad to see that today's youngsters are not as daft as they are sometimes portrayed.

Oldernotwiser

bristol_pilot wrote: »

Learning to chop veggies, fry burgers and wait tables in a pub is not an 'apprenticeship' it is just cheap labour, it will not give the youngsters a marketable skill so I'm hardly surprised that there are no takers. No doubt some numpty college will offer an NVQ in skivvying but it will be worthless as a qualification in the job market. Glad to see that today's youngsters are not as daft as they are sometimes portrayed.

How else do you think that chefs learn their trade if not by starting at the bottom and learning the basics?