Getting off the oil hook

nzmegs

I am yet to hear of a place in the countryside which doesn't have some form of public transport - even if it is just one bus each day. it is a matter of cutting your cloth to fit. ie you go out at the time of the day which matches the bus times.

I understand the inconvenience of doing that and I work from home so i guess I am lucky - but i think people sometimes think it is their right to live 50 miles from their workplace and drive everywhere they want. Whatever happened to the days when we lived close to the place we work and where we went to school. If you have chosen to work such long distances away from your home you need to accept that you must pay for that choice and that the environment will eventually pay for it as well.

On the other hand - employers need to do their bit and make it easier to work from home. despite years of advancement in terms of broadband technology we still go in to our offices everyday - for no good reason other than for our bosses to keep an eye on us.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

nzmegs wrote: »

I am yet to hear of a place in the countryside which doesn't have some form of public transport - even if it is just one bus each day. it is a matter of cutting your cloth to fit. ie you go out at the time of the day which matches the bus times.

I understand the inconvenience of doing that and I work from home so i guess I am lucky - but i think people sometimes think it is their right to live 50 miles from their workplace and drive everywhere they want. Whatever happened to the days when we lived close to the place we work and where we went to school. If you have chosen to work such long distances away from your home you need to accept that you must pay for that choice and that the environment will eventually pay for it as well.

On the other hand - employers need to do their bit and make it easier to work from home. despite years of advancement in terms of broadband technology we still go in to our offices everyday - for no good reason other than for our bosses to keep an eye on us.

I think you are living in a bubble called 'if it was an ideal world'

I would be extremely insulted by your remark about 'whatever happened to the days where you lived close to work.... ummm maybe there is no work.....so people have got to travel....

Each person/family are different....so you can not go preaching about using public transport and getting jobs closer to home...

Buses around where i live are pathetic....not every 10/20 minutes like inner cities..

To be honest i find my V8 Ranger Rover stops me from doing the unneccessary journeys, and yes i plan my routes so i get as much done in one journey...

Yes you are VERY lucky you work from home.... if you didnt, you wouldnt have the attitude you have now....

If you tell us waht work you do from home, then every person who got to travel umpteen miles to work, can quit their jobs and work from home, and do what you do..... cushty... work in p.j's all day...



Edit....... yes that is corect... Us Bosses do need to keep an eye on things, and not all jobs are office based.... and there needs to be inter-action between staff, to make certain things run smoothly.... flip you are wearing blinkers....

tbourner

For me to do my job from home I'd need to buy a £100k shaker system, a £30k thermal chamber, several generators to run the high voltage outputs, several different servers and high level HBAs - plus I'd need to get new storage systems and hard drives shipped to my house every week to do the testing. Don't think it's viable really.

grahamc2003

While we've got to use less oil at some stage (because it wll become too expensive due to demand exceeding supply) it's pointless going down routes which simply don't provide an alternative. I'm amazed some are still talking about small windmills on houses these days, when many studies have shown they simply don't work, and generate little, often less than that required to run the electronics within them. As to large scale windfarms, they create problems for the national grid which require conventional stations to burn fuel to compensate - i.e. windmills are not co2 free once connected to a grid. Because of this, they are environmentrally unfriendly; wasting resources which would be better spent elsewhere. It's componding the problems of oil, not ameliorating them.

The government really don't want to cut oil use. They may say they do, but their policies say otherwise. Much oil for car transport is an allowable taxable expense - indeed, ofen very generous allowances such that it is profitable for some to travel a lot. One obviouse solution for a government serious on cutting oil use would be to make any journey by car not an allowable business expense, and any journey by car not refundable for an employee by an employer (or altrernatively, make the mileage rate 0p). then we'd see how many business journeys by car instead of publi transport were absolutely necessary. (If i could pre-empt some replies, I know there would be problems for some, but this is just a broad view applying to most, not all where exceptions could be made). There'd also be major indirect advantages, such as less traffc jams due to less traffic, and less petrol costs due to demand falling. But the rub is the government would generate less fuel duty and other taxes, which could be why they talk the talk ut not walk the walk.

tbourner

They should get rid of traffic lights, that would save gallons of fuel every day.

Mankysteve

grahamc2003 wrote: »

. As to large scale windfarms, they create problems for the national grid which require conventional stations to burn fuel to compensate - i.e. windmills are not co2 free once connected to a grid. Because of this, they are environmentrally unfriendly; wasting resources which would be better spent elsewhere. It's componding the problems of oil, not ameliorating them.

There are solutions to then intermediate nation of wind power. There's pumped storage, compressed air, refrigerated gasses all and heated salts. There solutions some need more development than others work but they do exist

stoozey

Mankysteve wrote: »

There are solutions to then intermediate nation of wind power. There's pumped storage, compressed air, refrigerated gasses all and heated salts. There solutions some need more development than others work but they do exist

all a waste of time.

The only solution is nuclear or thorium salt fusion. I hope all those silly windfarms are chopped down for scrap. Ugly Blots on the landscape that dont work.

I along with a lot of others do not believe in the 'global warming' myth.

tbourner

stoozey wrote: »

The only solution is nuclear or thorium salt fusion.

or mass genocide.

Mankysteve

stoozey wrote: »

all a waste of time.

The only solution is nuclear or thorium salt fusion. I hope all those silly windfarms are chopped down for scrap. Ugly Blots on the landscape that dont work.

So Dinorwig power station was waste of time them. They do work hence why companies build them.

stoozey wrote: »

I along with a lot of others do not believe in the 'global warming' myth.

Along with yourself a lot of people are wrong. It's not your fault there a quite a well paid anti climate change lobby. Same people who tried to claim that cigs didn't kill funny enough.

stoozey

Nope they don't work which is why utility companies are financially blackmailed into building them.

Next you'll be telling us the last ice age was caused by global warming!

Give you just one example of the hoax that is global warming. If the entire icecap meltedcthe ocean level would DROP. Ice displaces water, it's how pipes burst etc.

Don't be soo quick to believe the crap the last gov spouted. Even the cretin George w bush hadcit right on this.