Are people like me middle class?

Eskimo12345

WHITEVANMAN wrote: »

The transcending feeling I get from your posts is that you are trying to prove to yourself your own success and your own level of worth.

As I have already stated several times, I buy the things I do because I enjoy them. If you still believe I buy them to show off then you are free to do so.

WHITEVANMAN wrote: »

At what level of wealth will you no longer worry that you will not be able to provide a family with a good/better life and why is that so important to you?

The honest answer is that I don't know. At the moment I have enough in the bank to survive unemployment for six months before I would have to start selling things. I find my job very stressful, and one of the things that helps me get up in the morning is aiming for the top.
I feel like you are trying to make me justify my drive for a more comfortable lifesytle and financial security later in life, for myself and my family. So I will counter that with a question to yourself - why shouldn't I?

setmefree2

If you have to get up and go to work every morning, which is most of us, then you are working class! There is only the working class and the not-working class, everything else is irrelevant!

vaporate

Degree in physics means sweet FA.

My sister has a biochemsitry degree from royal holloway yet does not have such a large income.

Clearly you had 'rich' parental help

Plus I second other members comments. Tit comes to mind.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

laurel7172 wrote: »

Biggish screens are normal now. Ubiquitous. Cheap. I think we've passed the point, with regard to 40 inch-ish screens, where a refusal to have one risks looking like "Oooo...look at me, I'm *far* too middle class to have a big TV".

And you can't get much more nouveau than that... :P

It's interesting how TVs have become such an identifying marker.

I have a small 7 year old CRT telly with just the five terrestrial channels. I'm generally reluctant to replace technology until it actually dies, as gadgets for me are purely functional rather than for show. I just don't watch as much TV as I used to, especially when I was a student. I find my life no longer revolves around the TV schedule and remembering to set any kind of recording device. I don't have it on permanently as background noise, like most people seem to.

I wonder if it makes a difference that I live in a Victorian conversion, where the focal point of the "lounge" is the old fireplace. Built in shelves either side of it mean the telly is perched in a corner of the bay window, and looks out of place.

My parents were born working class, and I am probably lower middle class. I shop in Waitrose, but still really love Super Noodles and toast made from Tesco Value white bread.

Pete111

I would say you are successful and aspirational working class. However, if you have kids they will be considered middle class (subject to your income and general lifestyle remaining above average. )

Your mates idea of middle class is nuts - I'm upper middle class I reckon (given my background) and there is no way my folks would pay for me to sit on my ar*e all day as an adult - though they could probably afford to. Only the very richest or aristocracy might subsidise their kids 100% and in modern Britain, this is rather rare. It is no longer the done thing for little Tarquin or Diana to 'sponge' when they could be earning for themselves....or at least running some unprofitable events/pr/charity organisation that gives the outward impression of them working!

Anyway good luck with your career etc and try not to spend too much on alarm clocks...(that one's a keeper right?!)

Eskimo12345

vaporate wrote: »

Degree in physics means sweet FA.
My sister has a biochemsitry degree from royal holloway yet does not have such a large income.
Clearly you had 'rich' parental help

Well that is an 'interesting' post.

If I didn't have my degree, I would not have my current job, so I believe the time and effort I put in to it is justified, and certainly not worth 'sweet FA' as you put it. Do I use anything I learned in my degree? No. However it enabled me to start on the career path that I am on today.

A degree is simply a piece of paper and some letters after your name, it is how you use it that determines the usefulness. Have you considered the possibility that I have made better career choices than your sister?

As for rich parental help, I have clearly stated that my parents have never been able to support me financially, nor would I ask them to. From the age of 18, I have supported myself, bar them feeding and homing me during university holidays, and I paid them £200 a month for that, which either came from my student loan or temp work.

vaporate

Eskimo12345 wrote: »

Well that is an 'interesting' post.

If I didn't have my degree, I would not have my current job, so I believe the time and effort I put in to it is justified, and certainly not worth 'sweet FA' as you put it. Do I use anything I learned in my degree? No. However it enabled me to start on the career path that I am on today.

A degree is simply a piece of paper and some letters after your name, it is how you use it that determines the usefulness. Have you considered the possibility that I have made better career choices than your sister?

As for rich parental help, I have clearly stated that my parents have never been able to support me financially, nor would I ask them to. From the age of 18, I have supported myself, bar them feeding and homing me during university holidays, and I paid them £200 a month for that, which either came from my student loan or temp work.

Ha I doubt that. It is all luck and psychology whether a employer takes you on.

Pete111

vaporate wrote: »

Ha I doubt that. It is all luck and psychology whether a employer takes you on.

Tosh.

Trust me. I know how recruitment works.

brucelee1973

In the United Kingdom, the term middle class implies those people who typically have had a good education, own a family house, and hold a managerial or professional post. Those holding a senior role in a profession or ownership/directorship of a corporation may be regarded as upper middle class, but in England this is as much dependent on background and education. The upper class is generally regarded as the aristocracy and landed gentry; very rich financiers buy country estates in order to qualify. It was commonly held that to join the landed gentry required a distance of least three generations from the time at which money was made (especially if through trade) and that those entering into its rank acquired the manners and mores of those already established. [1]

Wiki answer

vaporate

Pete111 wrote: »

Tosh.

Trust me. I know how recruitment works.

lol In your opinion, not fact.

It is all psychology beyond minimum criteria for the job.

Your comment is tosh if anything.

Please don't tell me your a recruitment consultant lol.