Are people like me middle class?

hcb42

I hate big Tvs

Ido think though that the OP had a genuine debate about what is "class" and how it is categorised - somewhere in the midst of the post, but has been slated to death here for daring to ask it!!!

carefullycautious

According to Billy Connelly you have to be wearing a v neck and drive a volvo to be middle class. He hates them with a vengence.

Watched a sketch where he states that the seriously rich and the very poor are both barking mad but they get on famously.

He was in a pub with two such characters who were enjoying their pints when the 'V' neck came over and started going on about house prices and how his had risen by x amount/bragging for all he was worth (sounds familiar)

The 'V' neck turned to the poor council dweller and asked him how much he would get if he sold his home.

The Council house dweller replied 'About 6 months'

True story
Always makes me laugh

WHITEVANMAN

Eskimo12345 wrote: »

As I have already stated several times, I buy the things I do because I enjoy them. If you still believe I buy them to show off then you are free to do so.

The honest answer is that I don't know. At the moment I have enough in the bank to survive unemployment for six months before I would have to start selling things. I find my job very stressful, and one of the things that helps me get up in the morning is aiming for the top.
I feel like you are trying to make me justify my drive for a more comfortable lifesytle and financial security later in life, for myself and my family. So I will counter that with a question to yourself - why shouldn't I?

You still cant quite decipher what I have said to you.

Im not suggesting you bought the goods to show off, Im suggesting that you only buy them because you enjoy having them and appreciate them for the pleasure they bring you. I appreciate doing just that, but your posts however, show the desire you appear to have also reflects more of a need to prove to yourself that you are at least someway succesfull and have advanced your standing from your somewhat poor upbringing and that you seek to have this supported by your piers.

If you think your choice of trinkets and your worth is what makes you a success or in any way changes your class, I would say you are mistaken.

Again your desire to make it to the top at the expense of living a very stressfull working life in order to provide you and your future kids the chance of a middle class lifestyle, says a lot more about your desire to leave the stigma of the working class upbringing than your desire to be personally accomplished and succesfull in your chosen field.

Im trying to get you to justify to 'yourself' the need to have all the things you desire, and identify why the need to be something more than you already were. Provided you live a good life and are happy with your lifestyle and the way you live, what does it matter what anyone else thinks you are?

And if you feel fully justified after you think about the question, and you are totally comfortable with what you think is really a worthwhile life, then there is nothing wrong with it.

I appreciate the wanting to be comfortable, and having come from probably at least as equally poor circumstances as yourself, where it was so bad, that at 17, I had to quit my A level studies and go to work in order to support and keep a roof over my familys head. Since then i've been substantially more well off than you twice, having once had it and nearly lost it all, then built it all back up again, I must be a huge Chav as ive a 52inch tv and a 46inch as well as several other varying size ones scattered around the house, ive been through several Nice cars and numerous other possesions of extravagence as and when I could afford them, even now I would not have to work for at least the next 20+ years, but not once have I ever been concerned whether I was now middle class, I am what I am, the son of a redundant docker and totally still working class, and that is all I need to be. How others percieve me is their own choice.
I also did not use any credit except for a mortgage on one property.

I would say to you that having been in both camps twice that money and objects are no replacement for the personal wellbeing of you and all of your family, you do not have to be wealthy to nuture the prosperity of a happy and content life for you and those you have around you.
The best things you can do in life for you and others usually come very cheaply, if not for free.

I dunno though maybe I have it all wrong these days. what do you think?

MrsE_2

WHITEVANMAN wrote: »

Again your desire to make it to the top at the expense of living a very stressfull working life in order to provide you and your future kids the chance of a middle class lifestyle, says a lot more about your desire to leave the stigma of the working class upbringing than your desire to be personally accomplished and succesfull in your chosen field..

Is there a stigma to being working class then?

WHITEVANMAN

MrsE wrote: »

Is there a stigma to being working class then?

If you read the rest of my post carefully, you will see that i firmly believe the answer to be No, however the OP seems to have the need to put it all behind him perhaps carrying his own personal feelings about it.

AD9898_2

Cleaver wrote: »

I don't think I can really comment on your class.

However, the fact that you spent £300 on an alarm clock (what the hell does it do?!) and think this is something to tell the general public makes me think that you're a bit of a moron. Sorry.

This thread has passed me by until now, although I only got halfway down the first page and wasn't much for it, however just looked back up and saw you got 39 thanks (so far) for this post, all I can say is you b4stard

vaporate

Pete111 wrote: »

See my post re 'interview trickery' and it should help you understand where he's coming from....ie his derriere.:D

Trollish comment.

You are just sour because you are wrong. Epic fail.

More so when you revert to verbal abuse. Reported as such.

property.advert

Good luck to this twit as he wastes £300 on alarm clocks as he foolishly believes it is cheaper to pay rent and save up to buy a house outright without ever borrowing money.

And we paid to send this clown to university ?

thorsoak

Sir Alan Sugar - working class? middle class? Discuss

pension-newbie

vaporate wrote: »

More so when you revert to verbal abuse. Reported as such.

Considering the scorn of your earlier posts reporting him for using the word derriere is a little hypcritical and nanny-statist - ooh help me help me

tell me what upset you most - that he said you were talking out of your !!!!!, or that he used french to do so (must be middle class)

Eskimo - a ditty my dad used to sing (east end childhood)
"The working class can kiss my !!!!! - I've got the foreman's job at last"