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Kilty_2

Get a grip - I've been doing 7 day weeks since I started studying an engineering degree (as do many others on my course) - I'm at work now :rotfl:

Derivative

Kilty wrote: »

Get a grip - I've been doing 7 day weeks since I started studying an engineering degree (as do many others on my course) - I'm at work now :rotfl:

Edit: read the other thread and I apologise. My point still stands though.

Kilty_2

EdgEy wrote: »

And with your quality degree you plan to be an Aldi manager.
Perhaps your University is less stringent than mine.

With my quality degree from one of the top institutions in the UK for Electronic and Electrical Engineering I plan to do many things - keeping one's options open is no bad thing.

Your degree alone won't even get you a graduate job if you were too high and mighty to get a part time job whilst you were studying.

Oldernotwiser

EdgEy wrote: »

Where are you going to fit 10 hours of work into that week?
You're basically asking hypothetical me to find a job that gives me 2 hours of work a day after 6pm.

Unless you're lucky and manage to find something close by you can turn that into 3+ hours a day with travel time. Being realistic and allowing an hour or two a day to eat, you're talking 13 hours a day studying/working and 9 hours a day showering/sleeping/having any other free time, every day for an entire term.

Theoretically possible sure, I really would like to see someone try it for more than a term or two though. And if you find me a lone parent doing 56 hour weeks + OU, you've just shown me someone neglecting their children.

This is all neglecting the fact that 8 hours is my minimum. Probably get a 2.1 at that level. For a first you'll be doing more and studying in holidays as well, so that knocks the holidays down to 10-20 hour work weeks as well.

This is absolute rubbish! Do you have no pubs or bars where you live that you could work for 2 or 3 evenings? Perhaps you worry that this will cut into your social life.

Unless you're doing a subject like Medicine or something with a lot of placements, you must really be struggling with your subject if you're putting 56 hours a week into it and only looking at getting a 2:1. As for the idea of studying full time in the holidays - you're joking, right?

Your comment about lone parent students is beyond contempt. Children go to bed in the middle of the evening and won't be neglected if their parent spends the next few hours studying rather than slouched in front of the TV.

Oldernotwiser

EdgEy wrote: »

And with your quality degree you plan to be an Aldi manager.
Perhaps your University is less stringent than mine.

You really are doing your bit to reinforce the stereotype of the Oxbridge student, aren't you?

Lokolo

Do you not have a local Dominos you could work in? Evening work during the week and weekends.

MsHoarder

Not an Oxbridge graduate, but only a step behind, and some degrees really don't allow time to work during term time. If you have to be in the library from about 9-7 every day just to keep up, then you need a dream of a job to fit around that. I had one for one term, where I came into an office after the staff had left and sorted out their filing backlog 2 nights a week. That was the only term time job which I didn't have to leave because I was falling behind on coursework.

How many of those suggesting that the OP could do a term time job (forgetting that the uni is likely to kick him out if he tries) have a demanding job? Could you then go straight from that to another 4 hour shift in the evening? Better to ask the university for help rather than assuming that everyone can find more income.

And it isn't fair that he can't get a higher loan, this causes many students whose parents don't support them going to uni, can't really afford to support them due to circumstances, etc a lot of problems. Then there's those parents who use the money to try control their adult offspring in matters such as sexuality or religion (both happened to friends of mine). Once you are an adult you should be judged on your own merit, as those who claim JSA are!

Derivative

I'd rather not be told to 'get a grip' when I say that it truly is impossible to fit part time jobs around some degrees.

Our course is designed to have us work 8 hours a day. The average person will have to put in that much. How about people slightly below average? Or above?

When you have a bad week and need to work a bit more to get stuff handed in for deadlines? I can't just call up work and say "sorry, not coming in today, writing a story lol".

It's not about high and mighty, it's about being realistic. Cutting into social life is !!!!!!!!. I go to University to come out with a proper knowledge of my subject and a degree classification that reflects that. It is fair enough to expect a _LOAN_ that can support me through it.

The above post has it down. I am not suggesting stacking shelves is an easy job. Not many jobs are easy. But when I was in full time work I could go to work a bit tired, or lacking a bit of motivation and still get the job done. When you can't concentrate on study, you're just completely wasting your time and sleep/rest is the only thing that will help. It's not worth sacrificing your future over a weekend job.

Lokolo

EdgEy wrote: »

I'd rather not be told to 'get a grip' when I say that it truly is impossible to fit part time jobs around some degrees.

Our course is designed to have us work 8 hours a day. The average person will have to put in that much. How about people slightly below average? Or above?

When you have a bad week and need to work a bit more to get stuff handed in for deadlines? I can't just call up work and say "sorry, not coming in today, writing a story lol".

It's not about high and mighty, it's about being realistic. Cutting into social life is !!!!!!!!. I go to University to come out with a proper knowledge of my subject and a degree classification that reflects that. It is fair enough to expect a _LOAN_ that can support me through it.

The above post has it down. I am not suggesting stacking shelves is an easy job. Not many jobs are easy. But when I was in full time work I could go to work a bit tired, or lacking a bit of motivation and still get the job done. When you can't concentrate on study, you're just completely wasting your time and sleep/rest is the only thing that will help. It's not worth sacrificing your future over a weekend job.

And surely the idea is to research this before you go?

If you did, you'd realise your loan won't suffice, and therefore you would get a job before you go.

You'd also have jobs lined up in the summers between your course... etc.

Derivative

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Your comment about lone parent students is beyond contempt. Children go to bed in the middle of the evening and won't be neglected if their parent spends the next few hours studying rather than slouched in front of the TV.

So you go to work at 9, get home at 5, get the food on, feed kids, then you have what? 1 hour of time with your children a day?

That's assuming you actually do 8 hours a day 7 days and not skewed towards the weekdays, in which case you'd basically not see your kids during the week.

I would like you to draw up a timetable for either a university student working _full-time_, or for this hypothetical lone parent. I think you're ignoring the essentials that take up time like eating, sleeping, showering, going to the shops every now and then...