parents bankrupt - student grants

setmefree2

InaPickle wrote: »

Also, can some other posters get off the backs of students: they aren't all workshy layabouts, and at least many of them can read and process information, which is more than certain other people seem to be able to do: some institutes categorically FORBID you from working at the same time as studying. Even if they didn't, and the OP was, say, a med student with a 40+ hour working week, would people still be trotting out the 'get a job' line? :mad:

Hi InaPickle :hello:

Nice to see you on this board.:T and well said :T I wish more posters would come on to this board and then we could drown out the "workshy layabout" brigade.

Good to see you and well done for taking a stand.

smf2

InaPickle

setmefree2 wrote: »

Hi InaPickle :hello:

Nice to see you on this board.:T and well said :T I wish more posters would come on to this board and then we could drown out the "workshy layabout" brigade.

Good to see you and well done for taking a stand.

smf2

Thanks smf2! I generally walk away from the 'students are all rubbish' brigade, but sometimes it is enough to make you :mad:! I could give numerous examples of ridiculously hardworking students (who are under ridiculous levels of stress as a result), but I'll leave well enough alone.

*Tosses bone to lions*

I mean, it's not like they are claiming benefits, is it?! :rotfl: :rotfl:

Best of luck, OP!

johnswife

I agree, I have two daughters at uni and another to go in September and they work hard to get good results and they support themselves.

saterkey

You have been given a hard learning life curve, its not easy and things turn up or dont happen the way you would expect.
Not sure where you live, is there a way you can move back in with parents to save on rent, move to a shared house to reduce rent. Although you cant take jobs in term time, look for online opportunities, marketing groups will pay £40-£50 a time for focus groups, small one off jobs etc.

Did you ever talk about what would happen if they couldnt support you, before you started the course. Is there anything you can sell, do you have a car to sell.

Is it possible to take a deferred year so you can work and save up money to do the rest. Can you transfer to another university, closer to parents with cheaper costs, this may be more preferable to having to give up your course. At the end of the day this may have to be a possibility, hard as it seems.

Wishing you the best of luck and hope you get sorted.

Oldernotwiser

saterkey wrote: »

You have been given a hard learning life curve, its not easy and things turn up or dont happen the way you would expect.
Not sure where you live, is there a way you can move back in with parents to save on rent, move to a shared house to reduce rent. Although you cant take jobs in term time, look for online opportunities, marketing groups will pay £40-£50 a time for focus groups, small one off jobs etc.

Did you ever talk about what would happen if they couldnt support you, before you started the course. Is there anything you can sell, do you have a car to sell.

Is it possible to take a deferred year so you can work and save up money to do the rest. Can you transfer to another university, closer to parents with cheaper costs, this may be more preferable to having to give up your course. At the end of the day this may have to be a possibility, hard as it seems.

Wishing you the best of luck and hope you get sorted.

Selling a car (or other goods ) is a good idea but transferring from Oxbridge to go to a local university is not.

Taiko

Remember in my time assessing seeing a guy leave a Maths course at Oxford Uni to go and study an HND in computer games design at our local college. Bad move.

PaulW1965

Taiko wrote: »

Remember in my time assessing seeing a guy leave a Maths course at Oxford Uni to go and study an HND in computer games design at our local college. Bad move.

How do you know? Are you still in touch with him?

Derivative

Getting a part time job on some courses is not feasible.

I am expected to study eight hours a day. Often do more to ensure I know the content properly. If I fall behind on my maths, the next week's lectures will probably be incomprehensible !!!!!!!!.

How do you plan to fit that study in around a part time job? Even if I had zero travel time, I might get four hours in on a weekend. Sometimes I might have to sack off work with an impending deadline as I give my degree precedence over stocking the local shelves at Tesco.

The loans assessment is simply not fair. It is not a students' responsibility to ensure their parents supply them with income. An 18 year old should be able to take a full loan of enough to support them on their course.

Oldernotwiser

EdgEy wrote: »

I am expected to study eight hours a day. Often do more to ensure I know the content properly. If I fall behind on my maths, the next week's lectures will probably be incomprehensible !!!!!!!!.

Plenty of people work 8 hours a day and study part time as well, for example with the OU. Oh, and lots of them are lone parents with a couple of children to raise also.

I said that I don't agree with students working excessive hours but it's silly to say that studying for 8 hours a day precludes working 8 to 10 hours a week as well.

Derivative

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Plenty of people work 8 hours a day and study part time as well, for example with the OU. Oh, and lots of them are lone parents with a couple of children to raise also.

I said that I don't agree with students working excessive hours but it's silly to say that studying for 8 hours a day precludes working 8 to 10 hours a week as well.

Where are you going to fit 10 hours of work into that week?
You're basically asking hypothetical me to find a job that gives me 2 hours of work a day after 6pm.

Unless you're lucky and manage to find something close by you can turn that into 3+ hours a day with travel time. Being realistic and allowing an hour or two a day to eat, you're talking 13 hours a day studying/working and 9 hours a day showering/sleeping/having any other free time, every day for an entire term.

Theoretically possible sure, I really would like to see someone try it for more than a term or two though. And if you find me a lone parent doing 56 hour weeks + OU, you've just shown me someone neglecting their children.

This is all neglecting the fact that 8 hours is my minimum. Probably get a 2.1 at that level. For a first you'll be doing more and studying in holidays as well, so that knocks the holidays down to 10-20 hour work weeks as well.