More Housing Shortage News...... One for the shortage deniers

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Nikel wrote: »

Its no good if we dont have wage inflation to go with it.

It's good for the country's debts which presumably is why it is being allowed to continue.

Wage inflation usually lags behind RPI but I think it won't have much effect this time especially with the cuts and more competition for jobs. Unless you work in a bank of course.

I agree, it's not good for most working people to be squeezed by inflation while wages stagnate.

Graham_Devon

[quote=[Deleted User];41556384]Like whose?



The post stated it wasn't an exhaustive list.

Price was such a given I didn't think it was worth mentioning. However, you are quite right Graham price is a factor in affordability. Who'd have though it, eh? Sadly, this must be one of the most insightful things you have ever said.[/QUOTE]

Like Hamish's? ISTL. Yours it seems until you were picked up on it.

Can I ask you a genuine question?

Are you a landlord, recent buyer, or otherwise have an interest in property prices being held up? You said you are a neutral, I'm wondering what this means. Only as you seem to be in favour of more lending, based on what you have said, and normally people who want more lending have a big VI.

[Deleted User]

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Like Hamish's? ISTL. Yours it seems until you were picked up on it.

Can I ask you a genuine question?

Are you a landlord, recent buyer, or otherwise have an interest in property prices being held up? You said you are a neutral, I'm wondering what this means. Only as you seem to be in favour of more lending, based on what you have said, and normally people who want more lending have a big VI.

I've already answered all of these in my above posts.

Whenever you respond to something somebody says you try to deliberately misrepresent what they say. One of your favourite methods seems to be when a poster makes a comment specific to one factor on house prices (or anything else) you will then claim that they are overlooking the other factors yet add nothing to the actual discussion. You then ignore all the content of their patient replies.

I'm in favour of more lending especially to SMEs I think that will make a big difference to the economy and jobs. I think it will have more effect on volumes than prices at the moment.

I am a neutral, I think I'm in a minority here who doesn't have a strong desire for the market to move in one direction or another. I realise that anything I do or want would have very little effect anyway. Why is there such a desire to mark people as 'bulls' or 'bears' my views are generally a mixture of the two I'd have though most people's views are.

You seem to do this with your support for the conservatives. In your mind Tory = good anyone else = bad. Even their own MPs don't agree with everything the party says. Most grownups are capable for forming their own opinions and voting based on a balance of same favouring one party or another.

As for your 'genuine question' I don't believe you are capable of asking one. I've made it quite clear that I'm a landlord. I suspect you ask this for the benefit of similarly childish posters who have polarised views on landlords who will make an attempt to deride any comments I make whether they agree with them or not.

My primary aim is to achieve greater cashflow. This is what leads to financial freedom.

I invested in a mixture of things to achieve this. But with respect to houses, when they're falling it's because less people are buying so the rents go up. We have already seen this. If prices are staying the same the inflation is taking care of the long term costs and rents are increasing with inflation. When prices go up the rate of rental increase falls but still increase due to inflation etc. I'm happy to discuss these points on other threads about it not here.

So whats next Graham, going to reply to this on another thread where more of your ilk are? Another well argued and qualified rebuttal like '!!!!!!'? Or just ignore/deliberately misrepresent what's said and reply to that?

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

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Or just ignore/deliberately misrepresent what's said and reply to that?[/QUOTE]

Yes Graham has quite a talent for doing that.

It's why we call him Mr Muddle.

geneer

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

I'd suggest the people that need to move at any cost, versus those that just want to move if they can get the right price for their house, are a tiny percentage of potential sellers.

Try again caller.

:rotfl:I'd suggest that reasons for wanting to move home is not a binary state.

Try again caller.

geneer

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Yes Graham has quite a talent for doing that.

It's why we call him Mr Muddle.

Is that the royal "we" or are you refering to the other voices in your head spamish.

Of course, you do try to avoid getting yourself in a muddle.
You much prefer simply ghosting away from threads where the discussion has ended in some inconvenient conclusions

[Deleted User]

geneer wrote: »

Is that the royal "we" or are you refering to the other voices in your head spamish.

Of course, you do try to avoid getting yourself in a muddle.
You much prefer simply ghosting away from threads where the discussion has ended in some inconvenient conclusions

Graham does all of the things mentioned.

A quick search of the forum shows there are many other users besides me and Hamish that have noticed it and Mr Muddle does seem to be a popular nickname for him.

Maybe if he stopped playing games and making silly posts people would take him more seriously.

[Deleted User]

geneer wrote: »

:rotfl:I'd suggest that reasons for wanting to move home is not a binary state.

Try again caller.

How can reasons ever be states?

A person could be in a state where they want to for some reason(s)

Do you mean that the person's state (ie wanting to) is dynamic? If so nothing has been said to refute that.

Graham_Devon

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So whats next Graham, going to reply to this on another thread where more of your ilk are? Another well argued and qualified rebuttal like '!!!!!!'? Or just ignore/deliberately misrepresent what's said and reply to that?[/QUOTE]

Wow, so many wrong assumption.

I'm neither a tory voter, or supporter.

I don't just simply misrepresent what's said, however, how else am I supposed to take stuff such as "sellers won't sell, it's their longterm home" and such like? How am I supposed to take lists which list everything but prices as a reason the market is where it is?

I didn't know you had made it clear you were a landlord, I've not read every single one of your posts. I asked, because I thought you might be from your posts, and it helps me figure out where you are coming from.
You also said you were a neutral on this thread, so I wondered what this meant, hence why I mentioned that when asking.
I'm not sure where my ilk are, or who they are.

See the assumptions above, which you have got wrong, is why I ASKED you your position, rather than simply assuming your position.

the_flying_pig

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

...For every 1% worse the mortgage deal, you need to save roughly £15,000 on the average house price to break even...

: palm slapping into forehead :

run that one by me again?