DPF - will this be ok ?

PeterZ_2

Strider590 wrote: »

Im afraid you've been blinded by popular myth and corporate advertising.
A normal 2wd fitted with winter tyres will be as effective if not more effective than a 4x4 on summer tyre's.

Your cheapest, safest and wisest option is to buy a set of winter tyre's for your current vehicle.

Many people on these forums have tried winter tyre's and will individually attest to their superiority.

But....... Personally (and this is just personal), I think your just trying to justify buying a Chelsea tractor to uses as a fashion accessory like sooooo many school run wannabe middle/upper class mums.

I'll second that.

4x4s are not invincible in the snow!!! I've seen plenty of them end up in ditches because the owners think they can go anywhere and drive way above the ability of the vehicle and their driving skills.

All cars have 4 wheel braking!

Stop trying to justify with lame reasons like "I live in the country and have kids therefore I need a 4x4" etc.

If you like the car then just get it, its your choice and you dont have to justify it to anyone.

Without a doubt I would go for a petrol version though.

Strider590

PeterZ wrote: »

I'll second that.

4x4s are not invincible in the snow!!!

Exactly..... Friend of mine went into "I need a 4x4" fever after last years winter because he couldn't get his Merc up his street in the snow, the street has a very slight incline.

He starts looking at 4x4's, ends up buying a 2009 Subaru Impreza.... Now i've seen a video on Youtube of an Impreza pulling a 44 tonne truck out of a snow drift, but this car had studded winter tyre's.

My friend, despite his 4x4 was once again stranded over the xmas period and couldn't get up the very slight incline in his street, whilst all his neighbours had no problem at all!!! Why? summer sports tyre's!

B00st

Hammyman wrote: »

The fact that you pay 3% more per litre for fuel is irrelevant when the MPG returned is typically 25-40% higher than a petrol engined equivalent model.

You will be lucky to see a 40% improvement in fuel consumption with a diesel compared to petrol when only doing 3 mile runs as the engines take a long time to reach operating temperature. Also, with a weekly mileage of around 30 miles, even if you could achieve a 40% saving you are not saving much in absolute terms especially compared to the other costs of the vehicle.

Flyboy152

PeterZ wrote: »

I'll second that.

4x4s are not invincible in the snow!!! I've seen plenty of them end up in ditches because the owners think they can go anywhere and drive way above the ability of the vehicle and their driving skills.

All cars have 4 wheel braking!

Stop trying to justify with lame reasons like "I live in the country and have kids therefore I need a 4x4" etc.

If you like the car then just get it, its your choice and you dont have to justify it to anyone.

Without a doubt I would go for a petrol version though.

Indeed, I live in "the country" and the most popular cars around here are family hatchbacks. There are some who believe they are superior (in more ways than one), because they think they can go anywhere, anytime and any in condition, in their four wheel drives. This last winter, the most cars that needed rescuing where............guess what.

littlemissfrugal

Avoid DPF's had an absolute nightmare for the last 18 months cost a fortune ruined 2 holidays lost in the region of £3k ended up doing a swap for a Golf with a normal diesel engine

the DPF works on the principle of dumping all the cack back into your engine and relying on another functioning part to deal with it - when one part in this process fails it is expensive time-consuming and when you are on the motorway and your car lurches into limp mode bloody scarey :eek::eek:

DO NOT BUY A CAR WITH A DPF it will blight your life

LandyAndy

photome wrote: »

Why are there so many diesels sold these days. I drive one for work but do 30000 plus a year so it makes sense.

My wife drives a petrol and does about 5000 a year so that makes sense also (to me)

I see so many people driving diesels and only doing the school run and or shopping once a week

So they are paying extra for the diesel car in first plave and then more per litre...so where is the saving

Quite right.

We bought two new cars 18 months ago. A large diesel estate for long journeys and a small petrol runabout for local work. Diesel has become such an economy bandwagon that plenty of folks jump on without thought

HiTo

littlemissfrugal wrote: »

Avoid DPF's had an absolute nightmare for the last 18 months cost a fortune ruined 2 holidays lost in the region of £3k ended up doing a swap for a Golf with a normal diesel engine

the DPF works on the principle of dumping all the cack back into your engine and relying on another functioning part to deal with it - when one part in this process fails it is expensive time-consuming and when you are on the motorway and your car lurches into limp mode bloody scarey :eek::eek:

DO NOT BUY A CAR WITH A DPF it will blight your life

"the DPF works on the principle of dumping all the cack back into your engine" that isn't really true and there is no getting away from them with euro 5 emmissions

bigjl

I have 5 years using auto diesels round town with the odd run on dual carraigeways, this is for work.

They have a DPF and they are a bad idea, at least until the technology is perfect.

One consideration would be the Lexus Hybrid 4x4, petrol engine, but with a system like the Prius so you have half a chance of getting into the 30's per gallon if you are lucky.

For your mileage it may be a good way into the vehicle you want but still remain economical-ish for the low mile school run you do.

I think they are called the Rx450H, though may be wrong, a mum at my son's school has one, good quality, lots of gadgets, could be a winner?

advice_please_2

If it has dpf best to go on regular long motorway cruises to force a regen

daveyjp

For short runs avoid a DPF diesel, the warranty probably won't cover any problems you may get with it.