Disabled parents and school

jetta_wales

blue_monkey wrote: »

Someone is touchy about having a young man - he is young, he is a man. I wish I could say I had a young man.

That is one massive chip on your shoulder!!!

It just further attempts to patronise and it's a bit naff tbh.

Oldernotwiser

jetta_wales wrote: »

You're getting quite ridiculous now and he's only 6 years younger than I am.

My question was answered a long while back.

Get over it.

Unfortunately, you didn't like the answers you got.

Anyway, I hope your bloke will be happy with his brand new car (if you get it) and that you may never wonder whether it's the car he wants or you.

sunnyone

No matter how much those of us with Knowledge of the disabled tax disc tell her the truth she wont accept it because she dosnt want too, I had a visit from the DVLA after a neighbours mum was refused DLA, the neighbour decided that since her mother didnt get it I shouldnt either and reported me for misusing my disabled tax disc, we have three cars and I can prove that my tax disc is on my car which only I drive so we were fine and my husband can only drive one car at a time anyway!

They are also checking cars for misuse of the tax disc one street etc. more now since some parking restrictions are dependant on disabled tax discs now, they fine people if the disabled person is not their.

When her young man gets a fine and shes in trouble with the DVLA she will be back bleating that Motability lied to her, Motability have nothing to do with the tax disc and we all know that give out incorrect information or gloss over it, thats the truth of the matter, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

In many areas you cant even get hospital transport today if you recieve HRM wether you choose to exchange it for a car or not so suggesting that the school run is an accepted further expense to the LA when the funding available for all disabled people from them is being cut to the bone is just rediculous but fortunatly her SW hasnt been able to find funding, we have a responsibilities to our children and one of them is to transport them to school and back or arrange it if we are unable to do it ourselves.

jetta_wales

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Unfortunately, you didn't like the answers you got.

Anyway, I hope your bloke will be happy with his brand new car (if you get it) and that you may never wonder whether it's the car he wants or you.

Pmsl we've been together for 3 years thanks but carry on with the childishness if you wish :-)

I had the helpful answers I needed quite a while back as I've already said about 3 times.

Oldernotwiser

jetta_wales wrote: »

Pmsl we've been together for 3 years thanks but carry on with the childishness if you wish :-)

I had the helpful answers I needed quite a while back as I've already said about 3 times.

I think that " childishness" may be an unfortunate choice of words.;)

Strapped

Is the child's father still alive?

Zoelikesjam

Oooo you are making me so angry now.
As Sunnyone, Myself and Several others have pointed out Several blinking times Your partner can drive the bloody car as much as he wants. BUT if its got your tax exemption on it he will get into trouble with the DVLA, and so will you. And it will serve you sodding right for not listening. You have no experience with Motability or the DVLA, WE ALL DO as a lot of us have been dealing with them for many years. Motability, again as Sunnyone pointed out, Gloss over things all the time. But at the end of the day its a simple matter

'YOU, and only YOU are allowed to use the Tax disc. OR a Carer is allowed to use it but ONLY if they are transporting you!'

And for the record, I agree with everyone else. You are coming across as a money grabber, even if you aren't you seem like it. I shall say for the third time though, words come across differently to what they mean on here.
YOU should be paying out of YOUR money to get YOUR kids to school. The key word there is YOUR...They are YOUR children, YOUR responsibility, Not anyone else's.


No, sorry, It doesn't make me mad to have to pay these things. Because this is my responsibility. These are my children.
What makes me mad is you.

blue_monkey_2

So can someone confirm then - I do not know anything specifically about getting a car on Motability so it has been great to learn what the rules are. I know someone who is breaking the rules on using the disc, have these always applied or is it recent? I found this info online:

Using the vehicle

To claim exemption from paying vehicle tax, the vehicle must be registered in your name or registered in the name of someone you nominate to drive for you (a nominee).
The vehicle must only be used for your purposes, for example shopping or getting prescriptions.
If it is being used by the nominee or someone else for their own personal needs, then the exemption will be lost. If you no longer qualify for vehicle tax exemption, you will need to tax your car in the appropriate tax class and pay the correct rate of vehicle tax.




So, if you get a motability car, you can ONLY have it taxed with the exemption disc? You cannot get a car without exempt tax and insurance, they are all part of the 'package' offered.

Can you get a car and choose to tax it yourself?

And it is the DVLA that make the rules on the Tax Disc, not Motability. They just 'sell' me the car in exchange for my DLA, - DVLA give me exemption disc and make the rules on using it? Who are seperate body to DVLA. And DVLA would not call Moability and say 'Did you give Mrs X's husband permission to use the vehicle?'

I know the DVLA are out in the housing estates around here a lot as they clamp out of tax vehicles on the 1st of the month, routinely. Would they clamp the car and then remove it, if they found it was not being used properly like they do vehicles with no tax?

Also, if my son was getting HRM we could be exempt from paying tax for the car we already have. But I could not use that car at all unless he was here with me or I was doing something for him?

Have these rules always been in place?

jetta_wales

blue_monkey wrote: »

So can someone confirm then - I do not know anything specifically about getting a car on Motability so it has been great to learn what the rules are. I know someone who is breaking the rules on using the disc, have these always applied or is it recent? I found this info online:

Using the vehicle

To claim exemption from paying vehicle tax, the vehicle must be registered in your name or registered in the name of someone you nominate to drive for you (a nominee).
The vehicle must only be used for your purposes, for example shopping or getting prescriptions.
If it is being used by the nominee or someone else for their own personal needs, then the exemption will be lost. If you no longer qualify for vehicle tax exemption, you will need to tax your car in the appropriate tax class and pay the correct rate of vehicle tax.




So, if you get a motability car, you can ONLY have it taxed with the exemption disc? You cannot get a car without exempt tax and insurance, they are all part of the 'package' offered.

Can you get a car and choose to tax it yourself?

And it is the DVLA that make the rules on the Tax Disc, not Motability. They just 'sell' me the car in exchange for my DLA, - DVLA give me exemption disc and make the rules on using it? Who are seperate body to DVLA. And DVLA would not call Moability and say 'Did you give Mrs X's husband permission to use the vehicle?'

I know the DVLA are out in the housing estates around here a lot as they clamp out of tax vehicles on the 1st of the month, routinely. Would they clamp the car and then remove it, if they found it was not being used properly like they do vehicles with no tax?

Also, if my son was getting HRM we could be exempt from paying tax for the car we already have. But I could not use that car at all unless he was here with me or I was doing something for him?

Have these rules always been in place?

Motability and others have said that this used to be the case but it isn't anymore not regarding the tax exemption on a Motability vehicle and from looking into on-line it seems there was a test case to set president for the fact that using the car for work in the case of a parent or spouse etc can be of great benefit to the dissabled individual not only from the point of being the main bread winner but also from it meaning you are away from the dissabled person for less time each day and also that you are able to return to them much faster should they have need of you urgently.

I'll look into it further to find some confirmation of this from the DVLA but I asked the questions with great detail and not just casually and the lady at Motability answered giving the examples herself like she gets asked it often. Are you sure? Yes absolutaly it's fine with us, the insurance and with your tax.

The reason it changed was because for many families with a dissabled child or adult that can not them selves drive, having a Motability car seemed pointless if they would still then need a second vehicle also so they might as well use the HRM toward the vehicle they can use for work and caring.

Motability keep the ownership documentation on the car so you can not tax it yourself. This would probably be why the rules are still tight for just having the disk but more relaxed if it's on a Motability vehicle.

sunnyone

jetta_wales wrote: »

Motability and others have said that this used to be the case but it isn't anymore not regarding the tax exemption on a Motability vehicle and from looking into on-line it seems there was a test case to set president for the fact that using the car for work in the case of a parent or spouse etc can be of great benefit to the dissabled individual not only from the point of being the main bread winner but also from it meaning you are away from the dissabled person for less time each day and also that you are able to return to them much faster should they have need of you urgently.

I'll look into it further to find some confirmation of this from the DVLA but I asked the questions with great detail and not just casually and the lady at Motability answered giving the examples herself like she gets asked it often. Are you sure? Yes absolutaly it's fine with us, the insurance and with your tax.

The reason it changed was because for many families with a dissabled child or adult that can not them selves drive, having a Motability car seemed pointless if they would still then need a second vehicle also so they might as well use the HRM toward the vehicle they can use for work and caring.

Motability keep the ownership documentation on the car so you can not tax it yourself. This would probably be why the rules are still tight for just having the disk but more relaxed if it's on a Motability vehicle.

The rules are not relaxed for a motability car, they are the same as every on every other car with a disabled class tax disc, if they were diffrent why did the DVLA come out and threaten my husband with prosicution if he used my car for work or any other personal useage?

Ask for it in writing from the DVLA that its ok for your husband to use YOUR disabled tax disc for work and other personal usage and dont bother saying that he wont use it for other reasons than work because we all know that will be a lie, he will go to visit his family, friends and/or go to the footy because he will have the car, he will want to show it off and he will just use it as and when he wants to.

You wont get it in writing, they wont send anyone it in writing because its not ok, its illegal.