What is the New World Order?

julieq

Let him make his argument and then selectively demolish pillars of it. Basic training in black helicopter school Nuking him early on by pointing out his quotes are faked takes all the sport out of debunking the deluded

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julieq wrote: »

Let him make his argument and then selectively demolish pillars of it. Basic training in black helicopter school Nuking him early on by pointing out his quotes are faked takes all the sport out of debunking the deluded

Does that mean you'll respond to my post to destroy the pillars of my counter to your reply?

I eagerly await the black helicopters and nukes as mentioned in your quality post.

Nikel

What is the New World Order?

1) haves
2) have-nots

same as the old order.

julieq

You demolish your own argument yourself in your sig. You say everything is possible if you really want it, and then attempt to claim in the body of your posts that there are barriers to achievement created by some conspiracy of the elite. In fact the truth is somewhere in between - there are obstacles but they can be overcome - but it's clearly the case that the world is far more meritocratic now than at any point in the past.

If there is one thing that really makes my blood boil it's the overprivileged moaning that the world is stacked against them. But I'm not having that argument in a discussion on the NWO hypothesis.

FTBFun

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

New Order's only number one was World In Motion. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.

Always knew there was something sinister about John Barnes' rap.

"Catch me if you can, cos I'm an England man" actually means "The Lizard People are our Masters".

Or something.

FTBFun

cgk1 wrote: »

Charlie Brooker sums it up perfectly here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/14/september11.usa

There are some brilliant comments on this article. Well worth a read.

From ShinyScalp:

How did 19 men with paper cutters hijack four aircraft? Is it because they didn't really, and it was all a big lie to disguise an even more sinister plot? Or is it because American airports security was almost non-existent prior to 9-11, to the point where it was a bit of a joke, internationally? i.e. the airports and heir police/security people !!!!e up (I can believe it's the latter, not least because I flew in and out of Logan Airport in March 2003 and, in the departure lounge on 16th March, saw an armed security guard stood airside with his holster flap open, leaning on the waist-high security barrier while he chatted up a young woman on the land side. He did this for 20 minutes. I know, because I watched. I could have been dancing around naked behind him with a stick of dynamite where my !!!!!! should be, and he'd never have know because he was more interested in where he hoped to put his own !!!!!! that night than he was in doing his job properly.)

southantrim3

http://www.radioliberty.com/thetruthaboutvaccines.html

For you to enjoy

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julieq wrote: »

You demolish your own argument yourself in your sig. You say everything is possible if you really want it, and then attempt to claim in the body of your posts that there are barriers to achievement created by some conspiracy of the elite. In fact the truth is somewhere in between - there are obstacles but they can be overcome - but it's clearly the case that the world is far more meritocratic now than at any point in the past.

If there is one thing that really makes my blood boil it's the overprivileged moaning that the world is stacked against them. But I'm not having that argument in a discussion on the NWO hypothesis.

You seem to respond to a simplification you make of my comments.

There are restrictions that give unfair advantages. That is what should be reformed. That is not the same as saying there are insurmountable barriers.

There is no contradiction. The level of risk and opportunity to succeed not being even among those of similar ability is the problem I refer to with examples.

I made my argument clear and you still haven't 'destroyed' or 'nuked' any of them. You haven't even answered a single one of the questions asked within it. So far you have made an ill informed insult and not much else.

julieq

And you're ignoring what I'm saying which is that the world is more meritocratic than it has ever been. End of. It is not ideally meritocratic, wealth is not evenly distributed, but globalisation has spread wealth more widely than did, for example, the rape of the colonies for raw materials. At least the Chinese trade rather than steal.

And I really don't want to be arguing about the nuances of social justice with someone who is whinging because he or she is in the top 10% of wealthy individuals globally and wants to get into the top 1%. That doesn't imply a conspiracy - that implies there are various barriers, merit based and situation based which you have to overcome. That people overcome them is ample evidence that they are not insurmountable. But you have to have talent, you have to have opportunity, and you have to have the drive to succeed.

This thread is about the conspiracy theory around the NWO. End of. If you want a thread on the unfairness of the world then go and start one.

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julieq wrote: »

And you're ignoring what I'm saying which is that the world is more meritocratic than it has ever been. End of. It is not ideally meritocratic, wealth is not evenly distributed, but globalisation has spread wealth more widely than did, for example, the rape of the colonies for raw materials. At least the Chinese trade rather than steal.

And I really don't want to be arguing about the nuances of social justice with someone who is whinging because he or she is in the top 10% of wealthy individuals globally and wants to get into the top 1%. That doesn't imply a conspiracy - that implies there are various barriers, merit based and situation based which you have to overcome. That people overcome them is ample evidence that they are not insurmountable. But you have to have talent, you have to have opportunity, and you have to have the drive to succeed.

This thread is about the conspiracy theory around the NWO. End of. If you want a thread on the unfairness of the world then go and start one.

lol, is 'End of' one of your 'nukes' or otherwise 'destroy the pillars' of an argument?

You don't seem to understand that wanting a fairer society doesn't mean that you are necessarily a victim of its unfairness. Its the difference between selfishness and decency. I wonder why you fail to get that.

Nor am I arguing that there is a conspiracy just that some of the 'evidence' of conspiracy fans is actually down to the sleazy nature of our current system. Therefore it is relevant to the thread.