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Phone Stolen- calls made by thief, liability?

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My brothers phone was stolen. He studpidly didn't inform orange straight away, instead waited four days. The thief called Bangladesh amongst other places and incurred 280 pounds worth of calls within the four day period. Orange admits that they know these calls were not made by the person who owns the phone, but states that the contract holder is still liable to pay for them. Is there anything you can do or is there any advice about how to avoid paying for it? If anyone knows of a way around paying that would be amazing!

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  • Hi can't offer advice, but out of curiosity, how did Orange know your brother didst make them?
  • yrp01
    yrp01 Posts: 71 Forumite
    I have worked for Tmobile before and since orange and them are the same now i can pretty much tell you unless you go through customer relations you have no chance even if you talk to a manager they will just say sorry we have a 24hr line to report this and say nothing sorry but thats how these things used to go down when i worked there :(
  • robt_2
    robt_2 Posts: 3,401 Forumite
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    yrp01 wrote: »
    I have worked for Tmobile before and since orange and them are the same now i can pretty much tell you unless you go through customer relations you have no chance even if you talk to a manager they will just say sorry we have a 24hr line to report this and say nothing sorry but thats how these things used to go down when i worked there :(

    And quite rightly too in my opinion. Opens your company up to a whole load of fraud otherwise.
  • Your brother is responsible until he calls to advise his phone has been stolen. No way around it
  • Your brother is responsible until he calls to advise his phone has been stolen. No way around it
    Pretty much and most of the time the advisor will say "I know you didn't make those calls" because the customer has just told them that, they wont have any way of knowing before hand.
    If you lost or had your bank card and PIN stolen would you really wait 4 days before reporting it?
  • unfortunately there are a lot of unscrupulous companies and crooks around these days.
  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    leif wrote: »
    My brothers phone was stolen. He studpidly didn't inform orange straight away, instead waited four days. The thief called Bangladesh amongst other places and incurred 280 pounds worth of calls within the four day period. Orange admits that they know these calls were not made by the person who owns the phone, but states that the contract holder is still liable to pay for them. Is there anything you can do or is there any advice about how to avoid paying for it? If anyone knows of a way around paying that would be amazing!

    Was it an iphone?
    Anyways I agree with the others, your bro is gonna have to pay up and shut up :o
  • PNPSUKNET
    PNPSUKNET Posts: 4,265 Forumite
    should of reported it right away, will learn the hard way with the bill
  • jenniewb
    jenniewb Posts: 12,842 Forumite
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    DUTR wrote: »
    Was it an iphone?
    Anyways I agree with the others, your bro is gonna have to pay up and shut up :o
    Confused! Does it matter which handset he had?
  • simax
    simax Posts: 1,976 Forumite
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    One of the main exclusions for Orange Care is unauthorised calls. Up until the point you report the phone as lost/stolen you are liable for all charges. Quite clearly stated in the Orange Care Terms and Conditions.
    I spent 25 years in the mobile industry, from 1994 to 2019. Worked for indies as well as the big networks, in their stores also in contact centres. I also hold a degree in telecoms engineering so I like to think I know what I’m talking about 😂
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