Csa?

RAS

Hi

I would suggest you post on the CSA Support forum.

Yes, since he has a child in the house, they make a 15% allowance before assessing his income for CSA. it is not relevent who the father is, just that there is a child.

Then they ask him for 15% of the remainder. Sense tell me that 15% of £100 is more than 15% of £85. They do not count CB as income, but will usually count WTC and CTC.

With respect to income, you can ask for a re-assessment based on the fact that he has not declared OT, but OT might just have been cut in the current climate?

or ask for re-assessment based on life style incompatible with earnings, if it really is.

balletshoes

Mimi_Arc_en_ciel wrote: »

that's rubbish

Technically my ex is on a hell of a lot more than £17k so i'm kicking up a stink to get a review. I dont see why they cant pull his P60 in april and average it from that.

I did think maybe they had told CSA he was that kid's dad

I'm going to query why they haven't taken into account the GF's CB.

(I know i seem a spiteful sod but he's messed me and DD about so much and this is just the tip of an iceberg.)

Pull his P60 from where? The CSA are not HMRC - and even if they were, the computer records for HMRC are not fully updated with all P60 records until about 6 months after the end of the tax year.

Caz3121

RAS wrote: »

They do not count CB as income, but will usually count WTC and CTC.

Good point - OP you may well find that this cancels out the discount for having a child in his home.
You are 'losing' about £7.50 a week in maintenance due to him having the other child in his household but how much of his assessed income is made up from tax credits which are only paid because that child is there

(in my opinion they should scrap the discount for other children and also scrap using the child tax credits for that child(ren) in all calculations)

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My OH has just been assessed on the CSA2 for his DD with ex, they do include the WTC coming in to our household but not the CB and CTC that we get for our son. HTH

rachbc

as others have said they disregard allowances for other children in the house before assessing how much much he is to pay for your child - he's not actually paying £54 to the child, they have just ignored the first 15% of his income when working out how much he should pay.

kelloggs36

It doesn't matter if the child in the NRP's household is his or not, the 15% is deducted from the income - what you should be asking though is whether they have included any tax credits - as they should be counting the child tax credits as his income - that will offset some of your losses that are being deducted from him supporting a child which is not his to support.

They don't count any child benefit at all in the calculations, nor do they use his partner's income - but if he is the higher earner, if they get working tax credits, that should also be added on and the 15% taken from that also.

Child Tax Credits is ALWAYS counted as belonging to the NRP regardless of whose child it is btw - so Noodle, if they haven't used the CTC, it is wrong.

kelloggs36

balletshoes wrote: »

Pull his P60 from where? The CSA are not HMRC - and even if they were, the computer records for HMRC are not fully updated with all P60 records until about 6 months after the end of the tax year.

Ah, but they can still get the info, even if it is late. What he may have done, is manipulate the amount of overtime he does so that he got a lower assessment - not saying he has, but many are up to speed on how it works and they manipulate it to help their own ends - you are right if he does regular overtime, it should be counted and I would also be fighting to get it included. The only time it should be an issue is if the OT has genuinely stopped, or if it was just a one-off.

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kelloggs36 wrote: »

It doesn't matter if the child in the NRP's household is his or not, the 15% is deducted from the income - what you should be asking though is whether they have included any tax credits - as they should be counting the child tax credits as his income - that will offset some of your losses that are being deducted from him supporting a child which is not his to support.

They don't count any child benefit at all in the calculations, nor do they use his partner's income - but if he is the higher earner, if they get working tax credits, that should also be added on and the 15% taken from that also.

Child Tax Credits is ALWAYS counted as belonging to the NRP regardless of whose child it is btw - so Noodle, if they haven't used the CTC, it is wrong.

Re the CTC, is this true even with new claims they are doing now? The form my OH received quite clearly said they only wanted to know about Working Tax Credit and they are aware of our son we have together as his details were already on the form they sent .....I think I will get OH to ring them to clarify this as don't want them turning round in a few months time and saying its wrong and adding back pay on.....not sure I really agree that CTC should be included though tbh...

Edit to add just phoned CSA myself as this was bothering me and I like to know where we stand with money all the time.....they just said that they only include the WTC and won't include the CTC??

fannyanna

It would be scandalous for the CSA to use CTC in their maintenance calculations - that would be taking money for the benefit of one child to pay towards the benefit of another.

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I agree fannyanna I don't think that CTC should be included in the calculation, WTC fair enough but not the CTC....I'm just confused now as Kelloggs seems to know their stuff but the CSA DEFINATLEY only asked for the WTC for my OH's calculation and they have just told me on the phone that that is correct and they don't use the CTC....also I can't actually find anything regarding CTC on the CSA website...it details how and when the WTC is used but does not mention the CTC.....???