MSE News: Benefits shake-up to introduce Universal Credits

Loanranger

ska_lover wrote: »

Loanranger wrote: »

What a load of tosh - and you really don't sound as if you are talking from experience so you do not have the right to judge a group of people who you seem to know very little about. If the majority of absentee parents actually PAID of their kids, there wouldn't be the need for the CSA would there? It is not just throwing money at the problem when bringing up kids alone, - all the money in the world would not make it an easy task.

People should NOT stay on benefits long term instead of getting a job - weather thay have kids or not, it does upset those of us that work if they are using it as a meal ticket - correct.There are always going to be the scroungers that want to stay on benefits - but you are pigeon holing a group of people here.



Its a real shame that in the year 2011 there seems to be the same old attitudes towards single parents that I faced when I was one all those years back. You wouldnt accuse a whole race group of sitting on their arris not wanting to work would you?

No, you are making incorrect assumptions yet again. I am not pigeon holing anyone. How do you know whether I have experience of being a single parent?

I do have the right to put forward my views and simply because I am questioning your assumptions you feel able to tell me that I have no right to do so. So, my post is not a load of tosh as you so elegantly phrase it. Suggest you listen to the BBC Radio 4 podcast from yesterday's lunchtime news to hear the facts and to listen to the single parent who chooses to remain on benefits rather than take a job that prevents her staying at home with her children. This is the attitude that I object to and why I agree that the benefits culture is skewed in favour of the workshy.
Why should people who work, and are probably parents too, pay her to stay at home? Wouldn't all parents choose to stay at home with their children?

bayness0

here is he link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12506273

Denzel09uk

calleyw wrote: »

Lucky you. After 2 and half years I have had a 2.5% wage rise which is a whole 18p a hour.

Calley

Ive not had a wage rise in 3 years.

flowerscotland

plumber2009 wrote: »

So my view is that single parents with children should get nothing as this this the root cause of the problem, not those looking for work.

What about Single parents who do actually work?

Are they the root of the problem?

I'm out every day rushing about to drop the kids off get to work which is an hours travelling time for me each way, running about like an idiot. I pay all my bills myself and yes I get some tax credits but my salary covers all my bills. While people I know just sit on their bums, in their rented £600 a month, three bedroom house, claiming they 'can't' work because they have a child.

I have always worked since I was 16 and didn't change when my ex walked out two years ago.

I really think you shouldn't be so narrow minded.

Deep_In_Debt

flight747 wrote: »

I wish I earn £5,000 a month on benefits, I really do! I don't give a damn s*** if all of you are fit and healthy and not being deaf. Wait until you turn into 100% deafness and you will find out no ones ever give you any job cos you cannot communcation at all!

I have a friend and colleague who is deaf and has been all her life. She works as a secretary as well and does an incredibly good job. Obviously she can't do telephone work and we all know that as do the clients, so that's where email comes in handy. We all made an effort to learn sign language and communicate with her that way. Never stopped her working, driving and leading a normal life.

Yogibear

mrsspendalot wrote: »

We got nothing last year and this year we got 0.5%

maybe so but the jobseekers would like a job,:cool:

Yogibear

bayness0 wrote: »

this is taken from the Guardian for an unemployed person under the new scheme.

Unemployed lorry driver living with his wife and three children in inner London, paying £320 a week rent. No disabilities in the family

Job seekers' allowance for couple: £5,343

Child benefits: £2,433.60

Child tax credits: £7,445.88

Housing benefit: £16,640

Council tax benefit: £1,274

Income before changes: £33,136

Income after changes: £26,000

Cut in income (after benefits capped at £500 a week): £7,136

Interesting that their rent and council tax will not go down so that 7k drop in income is pretty much the same as their child tax credits (i.e. it is the amount of money the Government says they need to bring up 3 children).

The problem is their rent and council tax is over half their income and it goes straight to someone else. Their entitlement for housing is the same as everyone else. So if you work you are also entitled to rent and council tax help - if you are limited to 26k also (and I guess you are) then everyone working is in the same boat.

It is no good saying to an unemployed family, you need 17k a year to live and we are going to take 7k off you. but even more interesting the family earning 81k a year - how much does the change affect them - nothing.

If this Government stupidity continues it is time for the masses to take to the streets and have ourselves a little revolution of our own.

what about the pensioners living on £97 a week each paying full council tax £101 monthly full rent and service charge £499 monthly getting eff all benefits as we are means tested [£16,000]worked since 14 the both of us no private pension [building trade] the other neighbour gets full benefits no council tax no rent or service charge effi9n` quids in eh ,never work in your puff get everything going,aye a shower of bs:mad:

2sides2everystory

Yogi, pardon me if you are not ready for it yet, but if you are of an age where you are not so mobile and fast as you once were, have you thought of being assessed for Attendance Allowance which is non-means tested?

Forget the name of the benefit - you do not have to use the money on any attendant or carer - you can spend it on what you like. The lower level is around £50 per week per person qualifying.

I feel sure you have earned it many times over in many ways, so if and when you are ready don't hesitate to apply via your local authority Adult Carer Unit (again do not be put off by the 'Carer' bit). It doesn't affect your independence one bit. They are just the peeps who help you fill in the forms and get the application processed. You don't have to disclose your savings to them for it.

no-oneknowsme

Sixer wrote: »

I honestly don't see it. How is your husband's profit not equivalent to his wage? Allowable expenses are what are necessary to run a business - they're not part of someone's wages.

Well , in answer to this question : My Husbands total yearly income for example would be around the £15k mark.....but his allowable expenses which are all necessary for his trade is around the £7k mark which means his yearly profit is £8k.

This profit , when calculated is less than NMW per hour.....

So , it looks as though this new universal credit is going to work against the genuine self employed !

ska_lover

Loanranger wrote: »

ska_lover wrote: »

No, you are making incorrect assumptions yet again. I am not pigeon holing anyone Yes you are and it is a fact, see further down this very paragraph where you refer to an interview you heard on radio 4 from some lazy slob - you say that this one single parents view are ' FACTS' . How do you know whether I have experience of being a single parent? You seem to have a real downer on them in your whole attitude. Going back to your previous comment about 'why should jobs be parent friendly?' - well that is really a no brainer that I can see.

I do have the right to put forward my views - erm no one said you hadn't and simply because I am questioning your assumptions what assumptions?- I have no need to assume anything, you are making your feelings quite clear you feel able to tell me that I have no right to do so.No, I did not. So, my post is not a load of tosh as you so elegantly phrase it.Yes, yes it is. Suggest you listen to the BBC Radio 4 podcast from yesterday's lunchtime news to hear the facts some of us go to work in the daytime, and do not have an opportunity to sit and listen to the radio... and I do know the facts - from experience and to listen to the single parent who chooses to remain on benefits rather than take a job that prevents her staying at home with her children This is ONE PERSONS opinion - not representive of anyone else but herself stop being so narrow minded.
This is the attitude that I object to and why I agree that the benefits culture is skewed in favour of the workshy. I object too, if you had actually read the post that you quoted you would see that - my actual words were:'' People should NOT stay on benefits long term instead of getting a job - weather thay have kids or not.'' Please read before replying in future! - might save you embarrasing yourself.
Why should people who work, and are probably parents too, pay her to stay at home?Agreed. Wouldn't all parents choose to stay at home with their children No, not if they wanted their children to grow up in anything other than a benefits culture, No they would not- especially when children reach school age.

I think you are extreamly ignorant when you tell me to listen to the 'facts' of your radio interview ( I actually laughed at that) if you believe that this one vikky pollard-alike is spokesperson for single parents everywhere. FYI, your 2nd post was even bigger tosh!