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Need some advice please for my Mum - regarding neighbours

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  • pigpen
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    edited 17 February 2011 at 11:58AM
    They can claim some benefits but they have to have worked a minimum of 6 months before they can.. my sister is seeing a guy from Slovakia.. he had been working 5 months and 2 weeks when he had thrombosis and was unable to work for months and he couldn't claim a thing.. another 3 weeks the benefits people said he would have been ok.. he is now back at work before anyone jumps on him! lol

    Social services to check up on the children maybe? That level of overcrowding is very damaging to personal deveopment not to mntion their schooling!

    And environmental health re rats and noise

    And maybe the landlord of the property as well, I am sure he wouldn't be too pleased to know the state his property is in!
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  • dontone
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    edited 17 February 2011 at 11:31AM
    puppypants wrote: »
    Could your Mum put in for a transfer, maybe to an oap bungalow, in view of her health? Perhaps her GP would back her on this. Or how about her contacting her MP?

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    The OP does not say that her mum is a council tenant, to my knowledge. Are people from the EU entitled to claim benefits whilst resident in this country? I believed they were free to come and work, but not claim benefits, open to correction if this is wrong.

    Hi there I think I better clear something up :)
    My mum isn't an oap, and she owns her own home, not a council tenant. So moving isn't an option, and also she doesn't see why she should move.
    Regarding the people next door, he has never worked, "bad back" is the excuse, she has for a time, about a month I think.
    She had to quit work because he was keeping the oldest girls off school so they could clean the house and look after the smaller kids.
    They get everything paid for benefits wise, all utilities, rent, the house what they live in isn't council, but private landlord, and they also get food stamps and clothing coupons.These people took over a lease from a cousin, so basically queue jumped to get a house. This they told my mum, thats why all their relatives have come over because they can get anything they want.
    It's very annoying considering people who are really struggling can't get half of what they claim. Most of their cash is spent on beer and scratchcards, which tbh we can't demand they spend the money sensibly, but it does stick in the craw.
    The partying can be 3 times a week or once a fortnight - it depends, but they drink all the time, they even do D.I.Y at 11 at night hammering & drilling.
    Someone has been round regarding the bins before who specialises in speaking their tounge - they choose to be ignorant.
    They actually don't apologie personally, the kids come round and do it.
    Thanks everybody so far, I'll pass some of these suggestions on :T
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  • dontone wrote: »

    Hi there I think I better clear something up :)
    My mum isn't an oap, and she owns her own home, not a council tenant. So moving isn't an option, and also she doesn't see why she should move.
    Regarding the people next door, he has never worked, "bad back" is the excuse, she has for a time, about a month I think.
    She had to quit work because he was keeping the oldest girls off school so they could clean the house and look after the smaller kids.
    They get everything paid for benefits wise, all utilities, rent, the house what they live in isn't council, but private landlord, and they also get food stamps and clothing coupons.These people took over a lease from a cousin, so basically queue jumped to get a house. This they told my mum, thats why all their relatives have come over because they can get anything they want.
    It's very annoying considering people who are really struggling can't get half of what they claim. Most of their cash is spent on beer and scratchcards, which tbh we can't demand they spend the money sensibly, but it does stick in the craw.
    The partying can be 3 times a week or once a fortnight - it depends, but they drink all the time, they even do D.I.Y at 11 at night hammering & drilling.
    Someone has been round regarding the bins before who specialises in speaking their tounge - they choose to be ignorant.
    They actually don't apologie personally, the kids come round and do it.
    Thanks everybody so far, I'll pass some of these suggestions on :T

    There is no waiting list for private tenancies, so if it isn't a housing association they didn't 'queue jump',

    You have to get away from this being about what country they originate from and not be distracted from what I hope is the real issue - your mum's disruption of the enjoyment of her own home.

    If you ring up to complain you must not mention their country of origin or advise them that they need translators - they have apparently talked to your mum and therefore may be able to talk to officials.

    Any complaint should be concise, to the point and with no hint of xenophobia or you will not get taken seriously.
  • Mrs_Arcanum
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    Also worth finding out if other neighbours have or are willing to complain. Often the Environmental noise nuisance department will not act until more than one household has complained.
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  • Errata
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    How are the neighbours on the other side coping?
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  • dontone
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    dontone wrote: »

    There is no waiting list for private tenancies, so if it isn't a housing association they didn't 'queue jump',

    You have to get away from this being about what country they originate from and not be distracted from what I hope is the real issue - your mum's disruption of the enjoyment of her own home.

    If you ring up to complain you must not mention their country of origin or advise them that they need translators - they have apparently talked to your mum and therefore may be able to talk to officials.

    Any complaint should be concise, to the point and with no hint of xenophobia or you will not get taken seriously.

    I can understand what you are saying. The trouble is when my mum first complained the landlord and the council both suggested that she go round and talk to them and explain that what they were doing wasn't on. She actually did do that before phoning the council but they can barely speak english so what mum was trying to say just bounced off. So thats why she explained on the phone that the language barrier was a big problem.
    She can't win. The neighbours on the other side are fed up too with the rubbish, but they aren't affected by the noise so much.
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  • KxMx
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    The complaints and diaries can take a long time and alot of perseverance to have an effect, how long has your Mum been complaining?
  • rachbc
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    Ok well lets cut through some of this xenophobia and try and work out whats going on - first off the can't have 'queue jumped' into a private tennancy as there aren't waiting lists -landlords can let to who they like. Second there a not benefits that pay utilities - if they are claiming IS or JSA they will be getting the same amount as anyone else on the same benefits, however if they are getting vouchers to pay for things its likely they are receiveing section 4 support (for failed assylum sskers) which means they won't be getting cash to pay for booze or lottery tickets - nor would they be able to work even if they wanted to...

    However if you mum has a genuine complaint about noise nusaince of environmental health, rather than just not liking living next to 'forgeiners' then she needs to complain to the appropriate council department and log specific issues.
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  • motherofstudents
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    edited 17 February 2011 at 1:16PM
    Not sure if they can be failed assylum seekers if they are from Hungary or Bulgaria as both in the EU. As their origin is not relevant anyway why mention it. I would contact your local councillor, they have advice sessions so go and see what they can do. Also might be worth writing to your MP and definitely Environmental health about the rubbish and the rats. It is unacceptable behaviour but unfortunately it can take a long time to get anything done and persistance is needed so don't give up. Also get neighbours to help.
  • Errata
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    With that number of occupants, the property is seriously overcrowded and the council should be taking the LL to court.
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