No More Sure Start Mat Grant

parsons

gillianr2 wrote: »

What has all this got to do with the op's question?

It's all very well having these plans and I actually do hope your daughter and her partner get everything they want in life but I can tell you from experience that it doesn't always work out the way you hope it will. We saved up, got a house, husband had a fab job then the recession hit and then the redundancies happened and it affected us in a huge way, like it has for many families. we dont all sit expecting the state to pay for us, some of us just need the extra assistance to help see us through this hard time (preferably without the high and mighty coming on and trying to drag us down, especially when on someone elses post that has nothing to do with the op's original question!).

I'm sorry that you feel like that.
The OP was bemoaning the fact that certain benefits are now not available due to the Wefare cuts. My point is that people ought to take responsibility for themselves instead of moaning that they can't get what others had out of the state.

My example is that there are some that refuse to entertain any responsibility for a family until everything is in place, finances are secure and notwithstanding what might happen in the big world out there. They simply ensure that they they don't become a drain on the government coffers unlike some.

There was a time when newly weds saved up before having a family - now it seems that people expect the state to bail them out!

viktory

gillianr2 wrote: »

All I am talking about is what we would have been entitled to under Labour that we are no longer entitled to under the ConDems

Yey!!

*Does a little dance* And about time too. I am fed up with keeping everyone else's kids.

jamdonut

what happens if you have a gd job and you have kids because you can afford them, , and then no fault of your own you loose your job, your trying to find another job but nothing is avaliable you are living on your savings but they run out, and then you go on jsa, do you get called names because your on jsa, everybodys situation is different, people should remember that

Kyresa

viktory wrote: »

Yey!!

*Does a little dance* And about time too. I am fed up with keeping everyone else's kids.

And I'm sure they'll be fed up of keeping you when you're older and want a bit of a state pension

parsons

jamdonut wrote: »

what happens if you have a gd job and you have kids because you can afford them, , and then no fault of your own you loose your job, your trying to find another job but nothing is avaliable you are living on your savings but they run out, and then you go on jsa, do you get called names because your on jsa, everybodys situation is different, people should remember that

In which case, I would have thought that it would be prudent with that level of responsibilty to have savings of at least 1 years income!

parsons

Kyresa wrote: »

And I'm sure they'll be fed up of keeping you when you're older and want a bit of a state pension

But what you fail to remember that most like me, have paid into the system over a period of at least 44 years of actual working, to support the pensioners at that time. So it would not be unreasonable for you to do it for us now would it?

Kyresa

parsons wrote: »

But what you fail to remember that most like me, have paid into the system over a period of at least 44 years of actual working, to support the pensioners at that time. So it would not be unreasonable for you to do it for us now would it?

The point was you'll NEED those "other people's kids" to keep paying into the system.

Gleeful

Kyresa wrote: »

The point was you'll NEED those "other people's kids" to keep paying into the system.

There are more people than jobs. This is likely to continue for a while. Therefore some of the 'other peoples kids' won't be contributing to the system, they'll be taking from it, unless of course, to quote my earlier post 'they win the X Factor'

Gleeful

Kyresa wrote: »

The point was you'll NEED those "other people's kids" to keep paying into the system.

No she won't, she'll have paid into it, plus a private pension, possibly. I don't think you get it?

Fridge2

jamdonut wrote: »

what happens if you have a gd job and you have kids because you can afford them, , and then no fault of your own you loose your job, your trying to find another job but nothing is avaliable you are living on your savings but they run out, and then you go on jsa, do you get called names because your on jsa, everybodys situation is different, people should remember that

I don't think anyone would grudge you the help you need to get over this hurdle.

However, earlier on, someone had actually factored in benefits and handouts when PLANNING their family and seemed incensed that they were no longer available....there's a world of difference between the two situations.