Public consultation on Protection of Freedoms Bill

Spartacus_Mills

Sirdan wrote: »

Nothing I have proposed has any bearing on the industry being allowed access to keeper details or any charges the DVLA may make for the supply of the data , so I don't quite get your point ?

I was agreeing with your point that the govt do not really want to get a grip on PPC's due to the financial incentives they get from them.

Sirdan

esmerobbo wrote: »

Lets hope they read these letters I sent a similar one only shorter, hoping short and sweet would work to mine. With a list of threats the PPC's and the DCA use! Like our old friend a "Norwich Pharmacal Order"!

Sirdan if you haven't sent it yet an SP10 is speeding in a "Goods vehicle";)

Yes a small error on my part and already sent :-(
I meant to say SP30 ..still the principal is the same.

HO87

The government do not run scared of the likes of the average membership of the BPA or its officers. They are concerned however, if they rub up the owners of some of the big hitters the wrong way. Like NCP - owned by Macquarie and APCOA whose UK subsidiary is most likely ultimately owned by the major US corporation of the same name (although its held through a number of other organisations en route). After all, is it really likely that there is no connection between organisations that share the same name and operate in the same field? No, I thought not.

Anyway. These companies are international hitters of note. Macquarie want a profit from all of their investment here and as - amongst other things - they own Airwave - the TETRA radio systems for the emergency services, the M6 Toll Road, Birmingham Airport, Wales & West Utilities etc etc could it be that their voice is being heard above the BPA clammer?

Every reason to keep the pressure on. Clearly the BPA have been feeling it as they have The PR Office onboard guiding their public image.

backfoot

My contribution has been sent to my MP. Thanks for the useful input throughout the thread and privately.

:cool:

Sirdan

More responses posted ..the PPC brigade are coming out to play ..particularly a poster calling himself "Stephen Thomas"

d123

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

Sean says:
I do not work in the parking industry but I do suffer from bad drivers on my land who think its fine to park on my land for free.

Sounds a bit like our resident PPC lover, flyboy. The " bad drivers parking on my land" is just what he likes to say.

esmerobbo

The pub landlord who was surprised to hear the "SIA" do not regulate the clampers! Now I wonder who told him they did?

See there is a certain poster! "Michael Looplotty-Perkins"

peter_the_piper

Interesting reading, if you can.
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/legislation/freedom-bill/vehicle-immobilisation-ia?view=Binary
I tend to lose track after a few pages.
Page 12 is interesting.

Coupon-mad

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Interesting reading, if you can.
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/legislation/freedom-bill/vehicle-immobilisation-ia?view=Binary
I tend to lose track after a few pages.
Page 12 is interesting.

That impact assessment is interesting, and also refers to another assessment in hand:

PAGE 13 QUOTE
(b) The existing law places the liability for parking on private land with the vehicle
keeper rather than with the driver. {WRONG - but we know they mean the other way around!!}

This is an obstacle to legitimate enforcement:
The DfT and DVLA are working on proposals, to be published in a separate
impact assessment, with the objective of ensuring that landowners and parking control companies are able to enforce parking penalty charges effectively against those who park on their property. This is also needed to ensure that the introduction of the wheel clamping ban on private land will not have a disproportionate and unintended effect on landowners’ ability to fairly enforce rights to their property. The intended effect is that the keeper of a vehicle will be held responsible for the consequences arising from the use of his or her vehicle.

QUOTE

So - what do we do? Write to the DVLA and DfT 'Freedoms Bill Impact Assessment teams' now voicing our objections to what they are working on? If they are looking at 'impact assessment' then let's make them aware of the impact and chuck the idea out right now!

Addresses anyone, for DVLA (not just the generic addy) and the DfT?

jkdd77

It also claims that current law allows PPCs to clamp over alleged unpaid invoices, which is entirely false.