DLA turned down , forms filled in wrong

Trasthmatic

GlasweJen wrote: »

I left CAB for the same reason, expected to just fill in the form even if they are blatantly lieing (once had to fill in a HRM claim for someone who runs marathons - he was in the news a few years ago when he got caught).

I cant understand how you "had" to fill in the claim. Surely any CAB officer or welfare rights officer has a duty of care to the customer and the law. If someone is knowingly helping someone fraudulently obtain benefit they have also comitted fraud.

I have a friend who is a SENCO at a secondary school, and she will never help a parent lie on benefit claim. She will only state the facts as they apply to child.

If you felt threatened into filling the form thats different but nothing a phonecall to the fraud hotline later wouldnt fix.

parsons

It happens more than you think :eek:

It is a career choice and you now get 3rd generation claimants, who expect welfare rights to be able to get them on DLA and their kids on DLA - nothing wrong with them just bad parenting... Then they kick off about the kids to get free childcare and activities in the school holidays i have seen this over and over again.

Welfare Rights Officers cant perform miracles :laugh: and no matter how excellent or not they fill in the form it will fail because of the medical evidence just about everytime imho and it is nearly all tick boxes now... If a gp writes anything positive or nothing at all then it will fail, and 99% of tribunals i have attended have been because of a gps comments.

Nothing more that I can say!

Gobsmacked to be honest!

nannytone_2

Trasthmatic wrote: »

I cant understand how you "had" to fill in the claim. Surely any CAB officer or welfare rights officer has a duty of care to the customer and the law. If someone is knowingly helping someone fraudulently obtain benefit they have also comitted fraud.

I have a friend who is a SENCO at a secondary school, and she will never help a parent lie on benefit claim. She will only state the facts as they apply to child.

If you felt threatened into filling the form thats different but nothing a phonecall to the fraud hotline later wouldnt fix.

it's a totally different thing. as an advisor filling in a form. we arent giving our opinion. we are merely presenting the information the client gives in the best possible light.
it was not my job to judge or to call them a liar.

GlasweJen

nannytone wrote: »

it's a totally different thing. as an advisor filling in a form. we arent giving our opinion. we are merely presenting the information the client gives in the best possible light.
it was not my job to judge or to call them a liar.

That's basically the position of CAB in general. As I'm not a professional health care professional I need to take the customer at face value even if they walked up a steep flight of stairs to see me (we did have a disabled friendly clinic at the community centre but our own offices were completely inaccessible).

I had many an argument with the team leaders over the policy and left eventually, CAB up and down the country help people commit benefit fraud every day.

nannytone_2

D I A L are exactly the same, and to be honest I dont see why any welfare rights organisation would be any different!
judging by the way some people blatantly lied to my face. i'm sure they'd do the same ina medical.........i can't see why theyd change!

parsons

nannytone wrote: »

D I A L are exactly the same, and to be honest I dont see why any welfare rights organisation would be any different!
judging by the way some people blatantly lied to my face. i'm sure they'd do the same ina medical.........i can't see why theyd change!

This is not right!!

Are these people that hard up that they have to lie and cheat to get money by using advisors that are there to help.

Wasting their time with scum like that!!

nannytone_2

not hard up, just plain greedy!
they see the chance to get something for nothing and jump aboard the disability bandwagon!

[Deleted User]

nannytone wrote: »

a friend of a friend....hated her job. went to her doctors with a 'bad back' initially just to get sick notes to get off work.
she eventually realised that the route to take was DLA.
she got hrm/mrc. £100 a week in her pocket with no effort!
the claim was ion 2001, but i know she is still receiving it now.

it's offtopic but this makes me very angry - I actually have what is loosely called a 'bad back' - 3 x spinal surgeries, spinal injections, MRI's, 7 hospital stays and permanent nerve damage to my leg & foot, and an inability to stand up for more than 5 minutes.

This friend of a friend is very welcome to a real 'bad back' - she can have mine at any time :rotfl: