I despair of the 2nd hand car buyers

thescouselander

I took a trip to the auctions the other week - plenty of decent cars to be had at a reasonable discount compared to a dealer. Probably best to cut out the middle man and just get the car from the auction yourself IMO.

LandyAndy

thescouselander wrote: »

I took a trip to the auctions the other week - plenty of decent cars to be had at a reasonable discount compared to a dealer. Probably best to cut out the middle man and just get the car from the auction yourself IMO.

I'm sure there are but among them there will be a few concealing serious faults. For a dealer buying many cars this is an inconvenience the cost of which he can spread across many other vehicles. For the private buyer, buying just that one car, it could be a disaster.

Not saying don't buy at auction just know what you are doing.

Flyboy152

KierNet wrote: »

To be fair all the traders I've been to have been trying to rip me off, when I was looking for my new car, I knew what I was looking for, had read reviews and was just looking for a test drive to confirm what I had read. First car I was shown (even after saying what I was looking for) was completely different, and over budget. And it didn't even work right! Foot flat on the floor and I was struggling to get above 50 in a 1.6 Focus. Said that if I put a deposit down they would fix it for me...not going to happen lol.

In the end went to Autotrader and got what I was looking for £700 cheaper than the cheapest trader I found.

I would only go to a trader for a test drive now, so many better deals if you buy privately.

And to think I read on a thread, "what's a time waster?"

Flyboy152

Kilty wrote: »

I despair of the traders that take the p*ss out of customers.

So do I.

Had one today tell me that my car is only under any circumstances worth £600 less than any other dealer had offered me without a fight (against a brand new car) - needless to say I told him where to stick his car and went elsewhere.

As for 2nd hand car dealers.........

How do you know, did you look at the book? How much was the cost to change on both deals? What was the trade price on both deals and how much discount were you being offered?

Flyboy152

property.advert wrote: »

For second hand I have always thought the proof of the pudding was to see what the best deal you can get them to offer is and then to see what you could sell that car for straight away. You then have some indication of what their profit is and if you think that is excessive, then you don't buy it.

I appreciate they have to eat but I ain't feeding them truffles on caviare blinis for supper.

What an odd way to establish the value of a car, I normally look in the book. You could have look at a few guides yourself, I believe there are a few in the internet; surely that would be easier.

What would you consider to be excessive profit?

Kilty_2

Flyboy152 wrote: »

How do you know, did you look at the book? How much was the cost to change on both deals? What was the trade price on both deals and how much discount were you being offered?

The cost to change was about £1600 more in total on a car with a screen price of £300 more :rotfl:

The price they offered is less than even We Buy Any Car offer :rotfl:

thescouselander

LandyAndy wrote: »

I'm sure there are but among them there will be a few concealing serious faults. For a dealer buying many cars this is an inconvenience the cost of which he can spread across many other vehicles. For the private buyer, buying just that one car, it could be a disaster.

Not saying don't buy at auction just know what you are doing.

I'm sure thats what the motor trade would like to make punters think. The reality is if you do happen to buy a dud (not that likely if you're buying a newer car) you can always just put the car back in the auction and someone else will take it off your hands.

I remember doing this once and I actually ended up making £50.

Flyboy152

Isn't it nice to know that honour is still alive and kicking?

libertysurf

thescouselander wrote: »

The reality is if you do happen to buy a dud (not that likely if you're buying a newer car) you can always just put the car back in the auction and someone else will take it off your hands.

I remember doing this once and I actually ended up making £50.

Ouch! Someone ended up stung, and by that time at least two dealers knew this, and were happy to let it happen.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

hartcjhart wrote: »

all seem to want rolls royce for mini money, they come and dream about buying a car that they no way can afford, thats called hope.

then they make a stupid bid on the price after the stupid valuation of their motor for part ex. insult for insult and that.

they want a car for a few hundred ponds but want a 10 year warranty,etc etc etc

when you try to do them a favour and bring the car to them or meet half way en route they think you are a rip off would rather listen to the car start from cold (knocking, smoking, tapping, wrattling usually disapear when warm)

all seem to want rolls royce for mini money, they come and dream about buying a car that they no way can afford, thats called hope.

then they make a stupid bid on the price after the stupid valuation of their motor for part ex. insult for insult and that.


they want a car for a few hundred ponds but want a 10 year warranty,etc etc etc thats call payment protection people save for a car, insurance and tax, buying a car with a min 28 day warrenty is just stupidity, and if a dealer doesnt want to put 3 months plus on one you know sommit is up with it.

to you a banger of 1500 is peanuts to someone on nat min wage saved for tax and insurance, is a hell of alot of cash, people dont want to buy a car then 30-40 days later having falk out on heavy repaire bills. dealers know exactly whats wrong with their cars know exactly how much its going to cost to repair, customers focus is not in a second hand/or new car dealers repertiore, maximising cash is, and limiting repairs to a vehicle is and selling with a limited timescale warrenty is.

when you try to do them a favour and bring the car to them or meet half way en route they think you are a rip off would rather listen to the car start from cold (knocking, smoking, tapping, wrattling usually disapear when warm) to me fetching a car to a buyer is not a favour its cries out i need rid asap and dont want to do a deal onsite.