Worse off living with partner?

Kasha2000UK

krisskross wrote: »

This makes no sense at all as you already live in a property from the council.

Why does this make no sense?

I'm in a council flat, therefore as far as the council are concerned I don't need anywhere to live - people who are homeless (as I once was), families, pregnant women, etc. all get ahead of me in the queue so whenever we try to apply for a place we get put the bottom of the queue - basically there aren't enough places to go round.

paddedjohn

Kasha2000UK wrote: »

Why does this make no sense?

I'm in a council flat, therefore as far as the council are concerned I don't need anywhere to live - people who are homeless (as I once was), families, pregnant women, etc. all get ahead of me in the queue so whenever we try to apply for a place we get put the bottom of the queue - basically there aren't enough places to go round.

you are not making any sense here, you say, as far as the council are concerned you dont need anywhere to live, but you are already housed by the council? what do you want them to do for you? give you a house?

Kasha2000UK

paddedjohn wrote: »

you are not making any sense here, you say, as far as the council are concerned you dont need anywhere to live, but you are already housed by the council? what do you want them to do for you? give you a house?

Yes, we need a house or a flat big enough for the two of us - my current flat I got via emergency housing after I was homeless, it's not big enough for the two of us, and certainly no good for the future.

This has no relation to my question.
Please answer the question or don't reply.

Mupette

If you offically live together then your only going to pay one house lot of bills.

You will lose your single occupancy on council tax
you will lose your single benfits
you might be entitled to working tax but that depends on age's of you both.

you will be worse off, but as a couple you won't be as i have already said you will only have one home with bills.

Benfit agency do not care what debts you have.

look at entitle2 website for more benfit entitlement

your call, but the way you are living now and not informing the benefits agency, you will find yourself with no benefits and another debt to pay back.

You can ask the council to rehouse you as a couple, but look at your tenancy it will say how many can live at your home before it is classed as over crowded.

another option would be for you both to declutter to make room.

your home may not be big enough but it is a start, and perhaps you can then both save for something else in the future.

paddedjohn

wake up and join the real world, you have a council flat paid for by the council and no doubt council tax also paid, you are living as a couple but you dont declare it and now you want a larger property.
get off your ar*e and get a job and then you can get whatever you both can afford between you.

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You do currently risk a criminal prosecution if you continue to allow your partner to stay the night more that a couple of nights a week. Please stop doing this until you've spoken to the National Autistic society about your benefits and housing situation and entitlements. However this situation is not forever. With the right advice you may be able to name your partner as your carer and use this to gain enough points for a larger home. This is especially true if the Shaw Trust help you find a good job training scheme as this government is keen on people being able to move house in order to enter employment rather than stay on benefits long term. From the information you've given I presume you currently live in a studio flat and would like to move to a one bedroom?

The National Autistic society has a helpline you can call for advice on benefits and the person you speak to will both have the information you need and be pleasant to talk to, unlike the job centre! They can also deal with the benifits agency on your behalf, which can be very useful if your local office is being less than kind to you. I suspect you will be helped to apply for disability living allowance if your partner is currently helping you with lots of daily tasks. Social communication disorders are very poorly understood by the average job centre employee & housing officer, so I'm not suprised at how you've been treated.

There are people who can help you! Stay strong and do talk to the Shaw Trust re finding work and to the National Autistic society re your housing and benefits. Do this as soon as you can.

Kasha2000UK

paddedjohn wrote: »

wake up and join the real world, you have a council flat paid for by the council and no doubt council tax also paid, you are living as a couple but you dont declare it and now you want a larger property.
get off your ar*e and get a job and then you can get whatever you both can afford between you.

We are not living as a couple.
We want a larger property so we can live as a couple.

I'm not unemployed because I'm sitting on my ar*e, I do voluntary work and attend college, I'm unemployed because of disability. You're the one who needs to wake up and join the real world if you think anyone honestly wants to live in poverty like this.

Blitz01

Kasha2000UK wrote: »

We are not living as a couple.
We want a larger property so we can live as a couple.

I'm not unemployed because I'm sitting on my ar*e, I do voluntary work and attend college, I'm unemployed because of disability. You're the one who needs to wake up and join the real world if you think anyone honestly wants to live in poverty like this.

1. You have already stated the BF is there most of the time. You ARE living as a couple.
2. You ARE NOT unemployed through disability as your condition does not determine this. You are unemployed because you choose to be
3. You want a larger property so you can live together? Get a job and PAY for it then like the rest of us have to

You are a BENEFIT CHEAT, and the sooner you are caught and punished the better, as I am sick of paying for your lifestyle choice.

viktory

Kasha2000UK wrote: »

We are not living as a couple.

Er, you most certainly are...the benefits agency will be really interested.

Kasha2000UK wrote: »

<snip> and he's practically here all the time anyway he helps me out <snip>

ceridwen

Mupette wrote: »

If you offically live together then your only going to pay one house lot of bills.

You will lose your single occupancy on council tax
you will lose your single benfits
you might be entitled to working tax but that depends on age's of you both.

you will be worse off, but as a couple you won't be as i have already said you will only have one home with bills.

Benfit agency do not care what debts you have.

look at entitle2 website for more benfit entitlement

your call, but the way you are living now and not informing the benefits agency, you will find yourself with no benefits and another debt to pay back.

You can ask the council to rehouse you as a couple, but look at your tenancy it will say how many can live at your home before it is classed as over crowded.

another option would be for you both to declutter to make room.

your home may not be big enough but it is a start, and perhaps you can then both save for something else in the future.

I think it would clarify the situation re your housing if you specify exactly what rooms you have and what size they are. I suspect when you say that you are living in a "Council flat" that what you are actually living in is a "Council flatLET"? I think you may find that the Council wouldnt regard it as overcrowded - even if its a flatLET (ie kitchenette, bathroom and bedsit room) as Councils have a VERY generous definition of how many people can fit into a place. A 3 bedroom house, for instance, can only house 1 adult or a couple in the main bedroom, one child (or, at a push, two same sex children) in bedroom 2 and the 3rd bedroom is probably only big enough for one child. That makes a maximum of 5 people (6 if bedroom 3 is a decent size and not a boxroom). But - according to the Council - a 3 bedroom house can accommodate 7 people:eek: (have spent time trying to get my head around where the extra 1 or 2 people are supposed to sleep - does the Council think the sitting room doubles up as a bedroom or do they assume tenants will put one of those posh shed affairs in the garden and use it as living space?.....).

So - I dont rate your chances of getting rehoused I have to say - and thats assuming its a flatlet (rather than a flat).