Shameless labour

Flyboy152

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I refer you to superbrown and his "I have saved the world" mumblings. If he saved the world, howcome the world is where its at?

As I said, I'm bored of this titt for tatt arguing. BOTH parties are as bad as each other, but I've never actually seen just all out attack from a party with absolutely no substance after about 8 months of questioning what they would do, as labour are doing now.

For every reference labour apologists can pluck out against the tories, theres a reference back you can use against labour. And round in circles we go.

But then isn't funny how the Tories were asked for two years about what they would do, but answers came there none.

StevieJ

A._Badger wrote: »

Clue: Borrowed money isn't income. A bubble isn't economic growth.

And cutting wages isn't helping the poor.

Wheezy_2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It was labour. No, it was tories. No, it was labour. Actually, tories. I clame labour set this out, as it was growth....oh, the tories can have it back now, as it's declined. I blame tories. I blame labour.

Refreshing to see the labour lot have left the lib dems alone for a while though!

I somewhat agree with you, but as ninky stated above, there should be some cut-off point to blame the previous administration. I'm sick and tired of hearing 'labour mess' every 2 sentences when a tory comes on telly.
Whether a mess was left or not, I'm not interested in the blame game, I'm interested in what they're gonna do about it.

And the libems are left alone because they're irrelevant now

Graham_Devon

Flyboy152 wrote: »

But then isn't funny how the Tories were asked for two years about what they would do, but answers came there none.

How can you even suggest such nonsense?

We had a televised frickin debate. I don't remember that debate following the lines of labour telling us all how everything would eb done and tories and lib dems just saying nothing.

Jesus. Talk about blinkers.

Think I'm gonna have to leave this thread. The denial is too much to take.

IronWolf

Flyboy152 wrote: »

But then isn't funny how the Tories were asked for two years about what they would do, but answers came there none.

Really? As I read it, they wanted to let the banks go bankrupt, the true free market.

StevieJ

michaels wrote: »

Laura - would you disagree that real wages fell for the 5th successive year in 2010? And can I ask if you remember which party was in power and which economic policies were followed for the first 4 and a half of those 5 years?

I think most people worry that it will soon be 10, 15 and eventually China:eek:

Wheezy_2

IronWolf wrote: »

Thats not what he was saying at all, you even quoted him, I don't get whats so difficult to understand

"Along with the decisive action we are taking on the deficit it should help underpin confidence"

He says that GDP growth and government action should underpin confidence, nowhere does he take credit for the GDP growth.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/oct/26/gdp-growth-osborne-construction

Osborne said: "What you see today, in an uncertain global economic environment, is Britain growing, growing strongly, the strongest growth we have seen in this part of the year for a decade, and also our country's credit rating being secured. That is a big vote of confidence in the UK, and a vote of confidence in the coalition government's economic policies."

better now?

StevieJ

IronWolf wrote: »

As always, the Tories do things in the long term interest of the country, at the price of the present, and Labour just live in the now, and take credit for the long term Tory policies that pay off.

What planet are you from m8 :rotfl:

Graham_Devon

Wheezy wrote: »

I somewhat agree with you, but as ninky stated above, there should be some cut-off point to blame the previous administration. I'm sick and tired of hearing 'labour mess' every 2 sentences when a tory comes on telly.
Whether a mess was left or not, I'm not interested in the blame game, I'm interested in what they're gonna do about it.

And the libems are left alone because they're irrelevant now

The cut off point for me would be Q2 2011 GDP data.

Q1 will be a mish mash of previous and new policies.

Labour collosally screwed up in certain areas. Handing out money like sweets. Free laptops etc. It was all just silly in the end.

Labour also saw large declines in GDP, though this was all blamed on the global economic scene.

What I'd like to see, is those labour supporters continuing to look at the global economic scene, instead of dumping everything they said before, about how our GDP figures were made up of global problems, and simply attacking the tories for a reversal in GDP.

We do have global factors at play again.

I don't have much hope of this actually happening, and completely expect labour supporters to blame the tories for GDP 100%. It would just be nice if that wasn't the case and discussion could actually take place. You can't really blame global factors when your party is in office, then completely blind side the same factors cus the opposition is in party.

IronWolf

Wheezy wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/oct/26/gdp-growth-osborne-construction

Osborne said: "What you see today, in an uncertain global economic environment, is Britain growing, growing strongly, the strongest growth we have seen in this part of the year for a decade, and also our country's credit rating being secured. That is a big vote of confidence in the UK, and a vote of confidence in the coalition government's economic policies."


better now?

Seriously, you need to take more time when reading, or you need some English lessons. He was saying that the countries credit rating being secured was a vote of confidence in the governments economic policies, which it is. He did not take credit for GDP growth.