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1984ReturnsForReal_2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Oh and one other thing, as I see it's plastered all over this thread too.

You cannot blame the coalition for the current GDP figures (for the last 6 months).

We are still working on labour policy.

So you think Cameron & Cos' consistent "we are going to screw you over message" & the cuts & redundancies implemented, the billions of pounds worth of contracts withdrawn at no notice has not had an effect on confidence? :rotfl:

IronWolf

ninky wrote: »

out of interest, how long do people think it will be before the coalition can't blame the last labour government? 1 year? or a decade? presumably if there is a recovery then it will also be due to "the last labour government"...or is it just the bad things that are their fault?

The debt created under Labour will take decades to pay down, and government spending will be low to reflect that for decades

abaxas

ninky wrote: »

out of interest, how long do people think it will be before the coalition can't blame the last labour government? 1 year? or a decade? presumably if there is a recovery then it will also be due to "the last labour government"...or is it just the bad things that are their fault?

Since labour has a 100% record of 'forking things up'.

People will correctly believe it forever.

ninky_2

abaxas wrote: »

Since labour has a 100% record of 'forking things up'.

People will correctly believe it forever.

very lazy thinking

Wheezy_2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I do wish labour people would stop lambasting the coalition (or mainly the tories) for something LABOUR set out, the results we are seeing is from LABOURS path, which we were STILL on.

Absolutely Graham, the growing GDP over the last several quarters is still Labour's legacy.

But why did Osborne claim the credit then when GDP rose in Q3?

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/UKs-Osborne-Q3-GDP-data-show-steady-recovery-underway/articleshow/6814933.cms

Along with the decisive action we are taking on the deficit it should help underpin confidence," Osborne said in a statement.

Summarized: When it goes up it's thanks to us, when it goes down, blame Labour or the weather. :rotfl:

Graham_Devon

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

I refer you to Prime Ministers Questions on right now & Ed pointing out (quite rightly) that the PM has been going about everywhere for the last 2 months saying we are out of the danger zone. Cameron even told the HP of that fact.

2 things you can get from that.


1: Cameron & Co are foolish politicians

2: Cameron & Co haven't got a clue

Simples.

I refer you to superbrown and his "I have saved the world" mumblings. If he saved the world, howcome the world is where its at?

As I said, I'm bored of this titt for tatt arguing. BOTH parties are as bad as each other, but I've never actually seen just all out attack from a party with absolutely no substance after about 8 months of questioning what they would do, as labour are doing now.

For every reference labour apologists can pluck out against the tories, theres a reference back you can use against labour. And round in circles we go.

abaxas

ninky wrote: »

very lazy thinking

So that makes it perfect for politicians to tell the populace.

Graham_Devon

Wheezy wrote: »

Absolutely Graham, the growing GDP over the last several quarters is still Labour's legacy.

But why did Osborne claim the credit then when GDP rose in Q3?

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/UKs-Osborne-Q3-GDP-data-show-steady-recovery-underway/articleshow/6814933.cms



Summarized: When it goes up it's thanks to us, when it goes down, blame Labour or the weather. :rotfl:

Why did Ed Balls himself, go all out slating the coalition saying it was actually THEIR policies which gave this growth.

Now the same bloke going all out to claim the same policies which he wanted to claim, are now the coalitions policies?

Only yesterday I mentioned this, as another labour supporter claimed it was all the tories policies, yet were upset the tories were claiming it when it was growth.

Its as if they want cake and actually want to eat it!

Can people not see where we are here?

It was labour. No, it was tories. No, it was labour. Actually, tories. I clame labour set this out, as it was growth....oh, the tories can have it back now, as it's declined. I blame tories. I blame labour.

Refreshing to see the labour lot have left the lib dems alone for a while though!

Flyboy152

Graham_Devon wrote: »

To be honest, I'm a little bored of labour blaming the tories, tories blaming labour, and every man and his dog slagging off the lib dems.

One thing I do wish, is that Labour would just stop attacking absolutely everything without any justification of what they would do themselves. Ed Balls was on the radio agian this morning....same old attack, so the question "what would you do".

Ed: Well we set out a plan to cut x amount over x years, unlike the tories who are just slamming the brakes on.
Presenter: But how would you do it
Ed: We set out plans, we were on target, we didnt do everything right but slamming the brakes on is the wrong way to go about things.
Presenter: Yes, but how would you do it
Ed: By two measures, we had set out plans, but look, if you slam the brakes on you are going to halt any recovery and send the country back into recession, its what we have been saying.
Presenter: So you can't tell me how you would do it
Ed: As I said, we had drawn out plans which didn't include raising taxes and cutting spending as the coalition are doing and slamming the brakes on growth.
Presenter: What about the 50p tax rate

And so on...Yawn.

Did you completey miss the budget of March 2010?

IronWolf

Wheezy wrote: »

Absolutely Graham, the growing GDP over the last several quarters is still Labour's legacy.

But why did Osborne claim the credit then when GDP rose in Q3?

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/UKs-Osborne-Q3-GDP-data-show-steady-recovery-underway/articleshow/6814933.cms



Summarized: When it goes up it's thanks to us, when it goes down, blame Labour or the weather. :rotfl:

Thats not what he was saying at all, you even quoted him, I don't get whats so difficult to understand

"Along with the decisive action we are taking on the deficit it should help underpin confidence"

He says that GDP growth and government action should underpin confidence, nowhere does he take credit for the GDP growth.