New House Misery

darkpool

I think pullip doesn't know what she is talking about or has explained herself very badly.

pulliptears

darkpool wrote: »

I think pullip doesn't know what she is talking about or has explained herself very badly.

pulliptears

ILW wrote: »

What sort of criteria define "needy"?

a family who could not afford to rent privately or buy, a family with a disabled child who needs special provision, a family with a disabled adult who requires special provision.

Bob and Sue earning £40k a year between them obviously do not fit this criteria as they have the means to privately rent.

pulliptears

ILW wrote: »

You keep going on about eligibilty, surely a single mum with 5 kids is going to be more elgible than a working family with one child.

A single Mum with 5 kids is not going to be bidding on a 2 bed house, which is what the family with the one child will bid on. She will be bidding on a 3 bed and stand as much chance as a family who are married with 4 or 5 kids themselves.

The idea is to be fairer in the system, to take single people out of the 3 bed houses and into flats freeing up valuable homes for families. You are given a home tailored to your needs with CBL, not just what happens to be there when you get to the top of the housing list as it used to be.

darkpool

But you just said that there is no priority for anyone at all? You said it was "first come, first served". Are you backtracking now and saying certain groups of people do have an easier chance of getting a council house?

pulliptears

darkpool wrote: »

But you just said that there is no priority for anyone at all? You said it was "first come, first served". Are you backtracking now and saying certain groups of people do have an easier chance of getting a council house?

To be honest I didn't think that there was anyone stupid enough that would need it explaining to them that you needed to be eligible first. Obviously I was wrong.

Or did you really think that its your god given right to be given a property even if you have millions in the bank?

THERE IS NO PRIORITY FOR THOSE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR HOUSING ASSOCIATION AND COUNCIL PROPERTIES

darkpool

How about some deep breathing excercises?

So what's the story with all those bronze/silver/gold/platinum band people? I thought the platinum band people were more eligible for a council house? In other words they had a priority right to a council house?

pulliptears

darkpool wrote: »

How about some deep breathing excercises?

So what's the story with all those bronze/silver/gold/platinum band people? I thought the platinum band people were more eligible for a council house? In other words they had a priority right to a council house?

Incyder would like you to believe that only single mums and asylum seekers get gold status, a myth.
Gold status will be awarded to those who are most in need, but this could be a family with 3 children who have been made homeless through no fault of their own, a woman fleeing domestic violence as well as a single Mum with one child. It won't automatically go to her.

The family with 3 children will be bidding for a 3 bed home, the woman fleeing violence will be looking for a flat, the single mum a 2 bed home or 2 bed flat. All won't be going for the same property which immediately makes it fairer as well as making sure you are allocated a property to suit your need.

Should a single mum of 1 and a family of 2 bid for the same property it will come down to who has paid rent on time, who has had antisocial behaviour reports against them etc. Single Mum has no more priority than family.

Under the old system Miss X would have reached the top of the list and been offered a 2 bed house in an area she didn't want. If she refused that she would be pushed back down the list. Miss X takes the property leaving one less 2 bed home on the books.

The other colours will be divvied out to those less needy, such as those currently in private accommodation, an elderly person looking to move into a bungalow, a single mum living with a relative etc

Where before a single mum would go straight to the top of the list, she is now competing with others who have a similar need, making the whole system a lot fairer. Unfortunately there are nowhere near enough properties to go round, and its not helped by people who can afford to buy or rent privately occupying much needed property, hence the changes bought in recently where homes are no longer for life.

pulliptears

Anyway, I am off out to enjoy a nice glass of wine. I hope some of you have a better understanding of how the systems work now rather than harbouring on the half truths and assumptions banded about by some.

darkpool

So it's basically a points based system? Has it not always been that way?

I bet it is still the single mums and asylum seekers that get the council houses.