PCN notice received today Grrr!

bb69

Hi everyone

I am well cheesed off I have received a PCN notice today.

I am likely to appeal but just wanted some opinions as to whether I would be successful (I know you can't say 100% - Need to rant too )

This is difficult to explain so bear with me

I received a notice to say I stopped on a pedestrian crossing or area marked by zigzags.

There is one picture and I am definitley not on a zigzag (box junction), so i'm on a crossing.

I do think this should not have been issued - The road is an extremely busy one with slow traffic. I think on this day in particular the traffic was extra slow due to road works and temporary traffic lights further down the road - it took me 40 minutes to move along what normally takes 15 or so

I'll try and explain using clock face positions - I am travelling from 6 o clock to 12 o clock

Traffic can also turn left from 9 o clock going to 12 o clock

Its difficult to know whether this happened on the particular day but these are the options:

sometimes cars can jump the lights or move forward if there is more space from 9 (turning left) making it impossible for anyone to move up to 12 because of the yellow box junction in front.

As there is a traffic light where I am at 6 o clock (which is bent awkwardly) - it could be possible that the lights changed to red which made me stop its a very busy road with traffic coming from all directions, so difficult to know if its my right of way

There may have been a car in front of me who was partially in the box, but moved off as space became clear at 12 o clock leaving me on the crossing

I am not on the box junction but a fair distance away maybe a metre?

I may have given way to a bus which tend to push forward - there is a small bus lane to the left before the lights

I travel along this road nearly every day and this usually happens to myself or others which makes it odd (I mean stopping just before the box junction)

The road is kind of survival of the fittest - the brave move forward, sometimes people don't even know whether its their right of way, but as the traffic is slow slow from 6-12 you do need to move before the traffic at 9 start turning left or there will never be any room!

I of course will make sure I am no where near the crossing tomorrow!!

Has this happened to anyone? Any comments suggestions?

Thanks

Hammyman

bb69 wrote: »

Hi everyone

I am well cheesed off I have received a PCN notice today.

I am likely to appeal but just wanted some opinions as to whether I would be successful (I know you can't say 100% - Need to rant too )

This is difficult to explain so bear with me

I received a notice to say I stopped on a pedestrian crossing or area marked by zigzags.

There is one picture and I am definitley not on a zigzag (box junction), so i'm on a crossing.

Your description isn't fantastic - too much irrelevant information included and information not put in which was needed, i.e were you stopped as in parking or stopped as in a queue of stationary traffic.

If you park anywhere within the area the white zig-zags cover either side of a crossing, it is an instant 3 penalty points and £60 fine. It is an absolute offence.

If you stop on a zebra crossing (the part the people actually walk across) then that is an offence as well.

bb69

Hammyman wrote: »

Your description isn't fantastic - too much irrelevant information included and information not put in which was needed, i.e were you stopped as in parking or stopped as in a queue of stationary traffic.

If you park anywhere within the area the white zig-zags cover either side of a crossing, it is an instant 3 penalty points and £60 fine. It is an absolute offence.

If you stop on a zebra crossing (the part the people actually walk across) then that is an offence as well.

Hi there
Yes I know I am a woman of many words, when usually only a few will do lol

Here are the answers:

I was stopped in a queue of stationary traffic

I was not in the yellow box.. there are no white zig zags at all nearby

It wasn't near a zebra crossing it was a pedestrian crossing with a green man - I was stopped on the part you walk across - there is a yellow box in front

Thanks

Gordon_Hose

Pelican crossing.

bb69

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Pelican crossing.

Yeah thanks :rotfl:

I am safe on the road honest lol

Rainmaker_uk

Please post the picture

bb69

Rainmaker_uk wrote: »

Please post the picture

Ok will do - in about 5-10 mins hopefully

Blobby8_2

bb69 wrote: »

I was stopped on the part you walk across

Thanks

Guilty , next please.

bb69

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sorry for the delay - A blurry shot but maybe you can see?

Although as Blobby8 says it seems i'm guilty - well yes I guess I am but there are so many factors

McKneff

Guilty m'lud, off with her head.

Blobby8_2

Look on the bright side - you wont do it again (I hope), as I told the wife when she picked her speeding fine (four years & counting). How she laughed when I got my second.