Mistreated at job centre - filing a complaint.

Gordon_Hose

Steve_k243 wrote: »

Plus the fact that most jobs in London go to foreigners now, PC discrimination in action.

Got any proof to back that up?

Steve_k243

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Got any proof to back that up?

I am unable to post links--but just Google the subject--It's under investigation by the London mayor.

From the Telegraph :-
In one of his first acts since being re-elected as Mayor of London, Mr Johnson today calls for “an honest and unflinching” investigation.

He promises to “expose the roots of the problem” and examine whether immigrants were prepared to work harder for less money or whether “native Londoners” had the wrong attitude to certain jobs.

Over the past two years unemployment has been rising and more than one in five 16 to 24-year-olds is currently out of work.

Writing in The Daily Telegraph he says: “London’s formidable job-creating powers do not always seem to involve the creation of jobs for native Londoners. Go into any coffee shop and talk to the staff, listen to the voices on the building sites — and you will see how the city is working as a magnet for talent and energy from outside the UK.”

However, the mayor ruled out introducing “quotas” banning employers from hiring foreign staff.

jobcenter

SeduLOUs wrote: »

Whilst I do have some sympathy for you for the way you were treated, I do also agree with many of the comments saying that you could be doing more.

My boyfriend moved over from Cyprus to the UK on October 20th. He had little relevant work experience, very few relevant qualifications and he had just come from another country where he had been for 5 years. All in all not a good combo for finding a job in this climate.

However, from the day he landed he spent 8 hours a day (9-5) jobhunting. In the morning he would hunt through all of the jobsites and apply to anything he would have a chance of getting. In the afternoon he went out asking around for opportunities and talking to managers.

He started full time work on November 6th.

There is work out there, but you have to want it.

This is such an extreme narrow-minded assumption that generalizes every persons situation as if every single human being in the country can be judged on a singular case of your boyfriend.

Your boyfriend has an easier time getting a minimum wage job in a cafe or restaurant than someone with skills. In addition, I have noticed that Italians, Spaniards and so on tend to get their minimum wage work via others of their own nationality, or in jobs where other people of their nationality work much easier than a Brit or a North European, for example.

First of all, most people with skills that I have spoken to are unemployed an average 1-1.5 years. That is really how bad the situation is out there. And if they are in their late 30's and older it's much harder for them than someone in their 20's.

For those with a lot of skills, they (nearly) always get rejected from smaller or lower skilled jobs because employers consider them over-qualified and simply don't want to hire them. A cafe or restaurant definitely will not hire them.

When I was unemployed I met people who were senior level accountants and even wealth managers who had been out of work for more than a year. I have a lot of skill and training and I was unemployed for over a year. I chased like a dog after a cat for a job. I did manage to get a temp job, poorly paid and p/t but only because I ad language skills they were not able to find elsewhere. The salary only covered my rent, nothing else. I never thought I would be unemployed for more than a few weeks. Reality soon hit. For anyone to make a claim that any of us were not trying, should frankly, be slapped. And to assume that these people who had highly paid jobs are willing to happily live on £67.50 a week and had to lose their home and their living standard because they are making too little effort is simply absurd.

You need to grasp a fact here: there are too many people applying for each job that is out there. It is not unusual for companies to have 100-300 applicants for a single position. Our borders are open and people are flowing in from everywhere making the job market extremely competitive.

Poppie68

jobcenter wrote: »

This is such an extreme narrow-minded assumption that generalizes every persons situation as if every single human being in the country can be judged on a singular case of your boyfriend.

Your boyfriend has an easier time getting a minimum wage job in a cafe or restaurant than someone with skills. In addition, I have noticed that Italians, Spaniards and so on tend to get their minimum wage work via others of their own nationality, or in jobs where other people of their nationality work much easier than a Brit or a North European, for example.

First of all, most people with skills that I have spoken to are unemployed an average 1-1.5 years. That is really how bad the situation is out there. And if they are in their late 30's and older it's much harder for them than someone in their 20's.

For those with a lot of skills, they (nearly) always get rejected from smaller or lower skilled jobs because employers consider them over-qualified and simply don't want to hire them. A cafe or restaurant definitely will not hire them.

When I was unemployed I met people who were senior level accountants and even wealth managers who had been out of work for more than a year. I have a lot of skill and training and I was unemployed for over a year. I chased like a dog after a cat for a job. I did manage to get a temp job, poorly paid and p/t but only because I ad language skills they were not able to find elsewhere. The salary only covered my rent, nothing else. I never thought I would be unemployed for more than a few weeks. Reality soon hit. For anyone to make a claim that any of us were not trying, should frankly, be slapped. And to assume that these people who had highly paid jobs are willing to happily live on £67.50 a week and had to lose their home and their living standard because they are making too little effort is simply absurd.

You need to grasp a fact here: there are too many people applying for each job that is out there. It is not unusual for companies to have 100-300 applicants for a single position. Our borders are open and people are flowing in from everywhere making the job market extremely competitive.

The post you have quoted is nearly 2 years old.

lilblue

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zekep1987

This is quite a old thread so i might not get a response it doesn't matter I'm just so angry, i live 5 miles from Jobcentre and i just walked home because i was angry.

I am currently signing on, and start work in 3 and a half weeks, a fortnight ago today they where saying how great my jobsearch is one of the best they have seen, i have had 5 interviews in the last 3 months but they didn't want to know.

I wrote down saying i have accepted employment thinking it would be easy next time i sign on, anything but. I applied for loads of other jobs to show I'm still committed to jobsearch so jobs some out of town and they got mad at me, i got called across like normal and the woman interviewing wearing a revealing top with her bra showing.

Either she hasn't been laid in a while or someone she fancies someone who got picked by someone else so she had to deal with me, instantly made me wait for a advisor on purpose for no reason spoke to me awful for no reason, its quite rear a female at the jobcentre treating me like this because their are okay with me before this incident some of them even flirt with me.

The other adviser called me over made feel small and where he was the whole half the Jobcentre could hear him asking about school, girlfriend and I'm single thought i was lying, asking where i live who lives their, brothers or sister's where do they work can't you get them to help you find work, work experience, qualifications college etc what friends and family and jobs they have it seemed to go on forever.

He went through really personal stuff which he shouldn't of asked, i turned around loads of people staring at me made it feel worse. I'm a guy and i getting close to tears if this interrogation lasted any longer, he interrogated me well over a hour which was unfair since i am stating work in 3 and a half weeks.

Making apply for Mcdonalds and Factory Work saying my claim will be stopped if i don't apply all of this came out of the blue, a fortnight ago they where making me sound like god now I'm the devil, I'm getting serious butterflies already about going back in which would be my last full sign on.

Everything i said was wrong, he had a answer for everything and before i left he said don't worry I'll get you into work, i nearly lol in his face because i am going to be in work my self in a few weeks.

He made feel like total crap, my mind his still processing all of this after we finished all these people staring at me made me want the floor to just swallow me up.

DCFC79

Grow a pair and just yes I'll apply for the jobs.

mattcanary

DCFC79 wrote: »

Grow a pair and just yes I'll apply for the jobs.

Er no, that type of behaviour is disgraceful.

He has found a job which starts in 3.5 weeks time.

Even if this was not the case, that is no reason for Jobcentre staff to treat him like this when he has been applying for jobs.
I think I would lodge a complaint.
You have the evidence to back up your jobsearch, by the sounds of it. Probably won;t achieve anything of benefit to you. But it may be the members of staff involved get spoken to by the Jobcentre and so they should be.

tomterm8

zekep1987 wrote: »

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Making apply for Mcdonalds and Factory Work saying my claim will be stopped if i don't apply all of this came out of the blue,.

Apply for the jobs that they have given you.

Otherwise you will lose your benefits, and it matters because any sanctions may end up applying to you if you become unemployed at some point in the future.

The rest of it just sounds like the jobcentre to me.

Apolonation

if people spent half as much time applying for jobs, as they did complaining in this thread most would almost certainly already be employed.