E: 20/03 DAILY £1 Million Giveaway - Golden Wonder - Purchase Required

sheils6

Thanks for posting Zoold - prefer Golden Wonder crisps! Hardly ever buy anything just to enter comps as the odds on lots of comps are dreadful but hey so what! I hope someone on here gets a nice win anyway.

The_3rd_Zebu

onetreehillgrrl wrote: »

Thanks zoold for the comp. I will be giving it a go (in for a penny, in for a pound). I think scam is definitely the wrong word. This is a lottery, plain (or cheese & onion ) and simple.Your chance in the national lottery is much lower than this comp., but we still play it (well I do). If you divide the prize total per day (404 chances) and divide that into 64,800 seconds, you get 160.3960396. Therefore, you have a 1 in 160 chance of winning something per day.

Help yourself

Actually the National Lottery offers far better chances than this comp.

On the National lottery you have about a 1 in 57 chance of winning a tenner.

On this comp the chances of winning a tenner are around 1 in 160 as you have already pointed out.

Besides which a lottery ticket will just cost you £1 whereas these multi-bags will usually cost you £1.39 unless you can find the special offers.

I am only pointing this out because I thought the aim of all of Martin's forums was to save you money not to encourage you to go squandering it on stuff you wouldn't normally buy for very little return.

( I'm off to go and find Martin!)

onetreehillgrrl

T3Z, you are not comparing apples for apples though. I found the calculus you got your data from. You didn't mention that it is 1 in 1032 to get 4 numbers correct (prizes on 4 vary from around 30 quid to 150 quid). Your 1 in 57 chance is to win £10. This 1 in 160 chance is to win an amount ranging from £5k to £10. In no way I am saying you are guaranteed anything. Every comp. entered on here is not guaranteed to give you a prize, albeit they are free to enter. (apart from the cost of your time ). I was trying to say that if you are buying the crisps anyway (and I do buy quite a few crisps ~ om nom nom crisps), then you may as well buy GW and have a punt.

I hope you find Martin Tell him that in no way is any1 twisting your arm to (a) buy the crisps or (b) enter the competition. However, as this is a money saving site, I am sure Martin will be voting in our favour as the crisps are half price at 65p for 6 at the moment (see post #18).

I have a mantra that I follow: It is better to regret something that you tried and failed, than regretting something that you didn't try at all.

The_3rd_Zebu

Alright Yes you do have to look at the odds for each different prize level.

We can do that for the Golden Wonder however it is not so easy on the National Lottery as the prize amounts depend on the prize funds in any given week.

However for the Golden Wonder comp on the surface it would seem that an entry has:

a 1 in 64,800 chance of winning a £5,000 prize

a 1 in 32,400 chance of winning a £1,000 prize

a 1 in 1,296 chance of winning a £100 prize

a 1 in 463 chance of winning a £50 prize

a 1 in 307 chance of winning a £10 prize


But wait a minute!! These figures are far too optimistic because it assumes that an entrant is playing purely against the "banker" in trying to select the correct second to play'

It neglects the fact that although the correct "winning" second is selected - another entrant (or maybe several other entrants) may too have selected that winning second. This could mean you loose against that other entrant rather than to the "banker".


In my last post I chose the comparison with the odds for the National Lottery's £10 prize because the conditions for that are fixed. Match three numbers and you win no matter how many people have done likewise.

Given the two I would far rather spend £1 on a National Lottery ticket for a 1 in 57 chance of winning £10 than buy a multi-pack of inferior crisps with very dubious odds of winning any of the prizes advertised.

Having said that however I have to add that I have never bought a Lottery ticket in my life.

bella165

it can be won as i won the £10 prize

justins_ghirl

I just won £10 from this as well!! And as the crisps were on special in tesco for 65p.....cant complain :d
thanks Zoold

zoold

Well Done bella165 and justins_ghirl :T

Hope there are many more winners.

sheils6

Thats great bella165 & justins-ghirl - well done! I didn't win but kids and me will enjoy the 65p crisps!

money21

it keeps saying my code is invalid

cestlavie

I'm astonished that the op and some others have taken my comments as being critical of the op since my post was simply offering information!! My post was not derogatory, it did not criticize anyone who enters this comp - indeed I ended by saying "Pick carefully!"

If I happened to be buying crisps and Golden Wonder were the cheapest on offer I would enter myself, but because i am an old pro at this game I would, as a matter of habit, have double-checked the t&c before purchase and become aware that my chances were minimal and I would hence not be buying this pack under the impression I had a real opportunity to win. (Unlike the odds on Walkers rainy days comp which were good if you were strategic.)

I have been comping for a very long time and I don't feel that "scam" is too strong a word for this type of marketing, when the odds are so abysmally low and this fact is disguised on the promotional packaging. The average person going along the crisp aisle will see the competition pack and might be swayed to buy the pack thinking "Wow, I might win, must buy some.." They will go home, not bother to read the t&c because they assume Walkers is a big name with a good conscience, and, not only will they not register the extremely low odds but they also probably won't even consider their till receipt is needed as proof of purchase after entry . I am all for every kind of competition, but this kind of promotion is not honestly transparent because the unwary will be scammed by it.

As Maxximmus says, O**a are very much in the risk management business and the promotions they run are, to quote The 3rd Zebu, "cunning". Indeed, clever O**a, for business is business and companies want to shift products and promotions are not run for the good of the community - however, my problem is that Joe Public can be hood-winked by them when they are in the vein of this Golden Wonder promo. (A few years ago O**a ran a competition for another major company where, as I recall, a pick-up truck was the prize - despite all the massive hooplah in their advertising, it was never awarded as no-one won.)

Titchylin asks if I really think a big company is out to scam its consumers? No, big companies are out to sell their products - anyway they can. It is the agencies or handling houses that often cunningly twist promotions and in some cases, yes, they do outright scam.

A few years ago a very major company ran a blinding competition with diamonds as prizes. Were there any winners? Er no, not until a consumer investigation took place and it became very clear that, despite what the handling house said, they had never, ever, been awarded...

Often the major companies are not aware that the handling houses are being a little crafty/cunning/dishonest. I know one person who won a prize which was meant to be a £10,000 pound dream holiday of his choice, yet the handling house tried to palm them off with one worth less than £2,500. He took the disparity up with the main promoter, and they instantly sorted it out so that he was awarded his rightful prize.

When you have been comping for many years, you start to know the reputations of handling houses and agencies and become informed about which comps might not be worth entering and/ or well run. Any comp overseen by by Primoveritas, for example, I personally, will consider to be judged fairly and squarely - they go through hoops to ensure this. Any comp, however that I know to be run by O**a - well, I will not instantly rush off to enter and I certainly would not spend money on any comp they were running if the qualifying purchase was one that I would not normally buy or one that was especially pricey.

Good luck all ! And do enjoy your crisps !