Maxtor Shared Storage 300Gb NAS (Network HDD) - £89.91

gjchester

HankMcSpank wrote:

Ok...my mistake then....I knew it'd be slow (as it's going over wireless), but I can't be done with the crippling effect of relocating files on the SAME drive! tis going on Ebay!

But your misunderstanding the process.

As far as the copying is concerned, it's not like a local PC drive where it's usally done by altering the file allocation table on the drive, so appearing to be instant. In moving them you are telling the NAS to copy them to a temp file on your local PC's hard drive (or in memory depending on the size), then re-write them back to the NAS. Thats 2 network transfers nothing is done locally on the NAS, unless as has been said you telnet on to the box and do it on the box.

It takes twice as long as the original copy as it has to effectivly do 2 copies, one to the PC then one back to the NAS.

HankMcSpank

gjchester wrote:

But your misunderstanding the process.

As far as the copying is concerned, it's not like a local PC drive where it's usally done by altering the file allocation table on the drive, so appearing to be instant. In moving them you are telling the NAS to copy them to a temp file on your local PC's hard drive (or in memory depending on the size), then re-write them back to the NAS. Thats 2 network transfers nothing is done locally on the NAS, unless as has been said you telnet on to the box and do it on the box.

It takes twice as long as the original copy as it has to effectivly do 2 copies, one to the PC then one back to the NAS.

Thanks for that....I realise that now & because of it, this drive is not for me. I was attracted by the media streaming aspect, high capacity for backup purposes. But in my opinion, it's a little noisy & clumsy to relocate files (ok, I now know that this is because it's a NAS drive!).

I'll be building a Home Theatre PC very soon & will simply by a even larger internal SATA drivethan I'd planned for it & then backup files to it (ok, still slow across my Wifi, but hey at least I can move files within the disk quickly/freely)

gooseye

Ripperoo wrote:

So does enabling the media server make the drive keep 'thrashing' all the time?

It's just that when disabled, the 'thrashing' stopped. Is that normal?

Sorry, I dunno - my MSS is tucked away in a spare room so I can't hear it

I imagine that immediately after enabling the uPnP media server it will do a full scan of the drive, then stop when finished.

gooseye

HankMcSpank wrote:

I'll be building a Home Theatre PC very soon & will simply by a even larger internal SATA drive than I'd planned for it & then backup files to it (ok, still slow across my Wifi, but hey at least I can move files within the disk quickly/freely)

That's fine if you wanna leave a juice-guzzling, costly, bulky and noisy PC on 24/7 to act as a media server. As opposed to an efficient, cheap, discreet and relatively quiet standalone device. Occasionally telneting in from your windows box to move stuff around
can't be such an inconvenience can it?

If you're after an easy GUI way of doing it, maybe running an ftp server on the MSS and a PC client supporting two remote ftp sessions would move the files/directories in an efficient manner? Will have to try it.

gjchester

HankMcSpank wrote:

Thanks for that....I realise that now & because of it, this drive is not for me. I was attracted by the media streaming aspect, high capacity for backup purposes. But in my opinion, it's a little noisy & clumsy to relocate files (ok, I now know that this is because it's a NAS drive!).

I'll be building a Home Theatre PC very soon & will simply by a even larger internal SATA drivethan I'd planned for it & then backup files to it (ok, still slow across my Wifi, but hey at least I can move files within the disk quickly/freely)

To be honest you'd be better keeping this and putting it somewhere not in the living room, so you can keep the noise down in the HTPC.

Building a silent PC will be a lot easier if you have the hard drive holding the media located away from the HTPC, then as it plays the HD is the HTPC can be spun down and the noise reduced. The downside is it's a little slower to get files on there, and you need to have some home network, the upside is the noise of the hard disk is reduced and in any case out of the living room.

My NAS stores my MP3's so I can play them via an audiotron through the hifi with no PC noise in the background.

bagabargain_2

One left in Wrexham after my purchase at luchtime.
Thanks for the thread

upgrade path is fully described on maxtor site at ftp://ftpdownload.maxtor.com/pub/Shared_Storage/MSS+/MSS-MSS+_Upgrade/extracted/mss-mss+_upgrade_procedure.pdf and this only upgrades to 2.4.2 not the later upgrade some have said is buggy

bluesxman

HankMcSpank wrote:

tis going on Ebay!

Oooh, keeping an eye out for that then! No luck finding one locally...

Chuffy

Having problems with my MP101 - it streams the start of songs fine with no glitches, then about 1:30 in it just hangs for about 30-40 seconds before moving onto the next track.
I've upgraded to 2.6.2-openmss1-rc2 - could it be this?
To be honest, I've loked on openmss and I'm well out of my league - it may as well be written in Hebrew for what it means to me. I undersatnd that I can install Twonky on it, but I've no idea at all how (and I've have to buy it too).
So any clues as to what could the problem?

123immy

don't have one but i've read a few times that the mp101 works better with twonky media.

i can't tell from your post whether you have open mss 2.6.2 rc2 or not, if you haven't you'll need to download this first before you can use twonkymedia.

don't worry about the openmss jargon, go to the twonkyvision website install page, and download the package for maxtor mss, the install is fairly straightforward.

then you configure the server by typing in http://NAS.ip.address:9000 in internet...remember to turn off the other media server, or it will churn like mad.

i installed twonkymedia it seems to work ok but my streamium is equally happy with the onboard media server, so not necessary for me

[edit 12/11/06] actually with twonky it's much faster plus you have a raft of shoutcast radio streams, the files appear in the right order too, so i'd now recommend twonky....

hope this helps!

gjchester

Chuffy wrote:

Having problems with my MP101 - it streams the start of songs fine with no glitches, then about 1:30 in it just hangs for about 30-40 seconds before moving onto the next track.
I've upgraded to 2.6.2-openmss1-rc2 - could it be this?
To be honest, I've loked on openmss and I'm well out of my league - it may as well be written in Hebrew for what it means to me. I undersatnd that I can install Twonky on it, but I've no idea at all how (and I've have to buy it too).
So any clues as to what could the problem?

I had a MP101 and sold it when I got the Audiotron. I used Twonky on a PC that held the MP3's and that PC got replaced by my NAS (The audiotron reads directly from windows shares so doesn't need a server proggie)

I had similar issues with the MP101 when I tried to use it wirelessly, but it worked far better when wired. In Wireless mode the MP101 could see the server but never quite worked right it either has issues connecting or glitched a heck of a lot. Putting a wireless laptop with winamp on it in the same spot, showed good signal strength and played fine was fine so it wasn't a network issue getting the files, just something odd about the wireless side, If I switched it from wireless to wired it worked perfectly, I tried everything, including turning off all the security on the wireless router to try and avoid encryption problems but it never really worked well. Gave up and used it wired, (it was 3 ft from the router I just wanted it wireless for convenience and one less cable to hide)

The Twonky software was far better than the netgear stuff, but then I was mainly interested in internet radio (again the audiotron does that without a server program) and I was using from a host PC not the NAS.

You don't say how yours is setup wired / wirelessly, but try a wired setup, and they will do a 30 day trial of Twonky you could try and see if it alleviates the problem