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£20+ electric in 4 days.....really?!

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  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    savemoney wrote: »
    Not sure why bill says estimate part through bill I gave them readings monthly and they tally fine
    That is one confusing bill and makes no sense at all to me.

    228kw @ 14.412p is £32.86
    ...19 is 2.74 (correct)
    ...16 is 2.31 (correct)
    ...193 should be (27.81) wrong...
    293kw @ 14.412p is £42.23
    ...36 is 5.19 (correct)
    ...8 is 1.15 (correct)
    ...249 should be (35.88) wrong...

    Yet they have only charged you £46.24 in total making your unit rate 10 pence per kwh including discounts and vat. Maybe someone else can clarify it.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • savemoney
    savemoney Posts: 18,125 Forumite
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    Yes I know what you mean they made it confusing I cant fathom it out now
  • savemoney
    savemoney Posts: 18,125 Forumite
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    edited 4 January 2011 at 3:22PM
    I looked at my last bill and its nota s complicated as that in fact I paid 398units @ 7.885p

    The tariff I am on says


    Electric tariff Tier 1(up to 225 kWh) 16.120p kWh
    Electric tariff Tier 2(above 225 kWh) 10.329p kWh


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  • victor2
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    They are really confusing bills! What's with the First, Next and Third kWh?
    If you put 7.885p into the actual Third kWh figures (not those printed) on the bill in #29, it multiples up to the totals shown. Still don't understand why it shows First and Next, at the same rate, though.

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  • HappyMJ
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    savemoney wrote: »
    I looked at my last bill and its nota s complicated as that in fact I paid 398units @ 7.885p

    The tariff I am on says


    Electric tariff Tier 1(up to 225 kWh) 16.120p kWh
    Electric tariff Tier 2(above 225 kWh) 10.329p kWh
    Finally a bill that makes sense.
    ...193 @ 7.885 is 15.22 correct...
    ...249 @ 7.885 is 19.63 correct...

    They must have misprinted the latest bill. Cheers. I'm no longer confused. Your rates are quite good averaging out at 10p/kw. The rates are different to the quoted rates as you get several discounts may be for dual fuel and direct debit and may even be a loyalty discount as it is quite a large discount.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • savemoney
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    edited 4 January 2011 at 4:01PM
    Funny thing I get a small discount on electric of around £1.30 ish but nothing for gas. I rang BG just now I am still none the wiser how they got to the figure on this months bill, I dont dispute the bill just how it is derived

    We dont get any other discounts well nothing to imply on the bill that is
  • HappyMJ wrote: »
    I translated sensible into only keeping 2 rooms warm whilst they were occupied and not asleep. i.e from 7am until 11pm. I wouldn't want to sit in a cold flat. I live in a new build yes but it's now 15 years old no cavity wall insulation. Poorly fitted wooden double glazing. Keeping 1 room warm either kitchen/bedroom or bathroom for 16 hours costs me £25 per week using 25kw per day @ 14p/kw inclusive of standing charges. The gas bill for the living room fire is about £7 per week plus standing charges to keep that room warm for 8 hours @ 3kw/hour @ 4p/hour.
    The thing is I tried just heating the living room, but when the man from the council came round to insepect the damp in the bedrooms he said it was because I only heated one room, so when the heat escaped from that room it caused condensation and damp?
  • OMG now I am totally confuzzled, basically I have been noting down the numbers that have changed, it's only 2 sets of numbers, is this right?
  • victor2 wrote: »
    You could do with finding out what the switches in your airing cupboard do. One will almost certainly be for the hot water, not sure about the other.
    You're looking for the number of kWh, or units used, between the two readings. That will give you an indication of how much your electricity consumption is on a daily basis with whatever you had running during the time between the readings.
    I just looked and both switches have a cable running to the water tank thing? :o
    HappyMJ wrote: »
    Sounds like you could do with an energy monitor. Ring your supplier and see if they can give you one for free or you could think about spending a small sum on one. An electric heater will use between 0.8kw and 3kw of power. It will only use what is necessary to keep the room warm. Most well insulated rooms will lose about 1kw of heat each hour when the outside temperature is zero and you want the inside to be 21. This depends on how big your room is and how your house is built you could lose more or less. Currently my heating is on and the energy monitor says 2.1kw @ 29p/hour (i've set it to 14p/kw as that is my average rate....yes i get it cheaper with the £100 annual discount but every extra hour of heating will cost that). Then on the other hand if I press the daily button I've only used 11kw since 7am this morning so about 1.5kw per hour.
    I will give BG a call and see if they have one, thanks.
  • victor2
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    Not sure what your pre-payment meter shows. Presumably it indicates how much credit you have, but is there another figure that slowly increases by something like 1 an hour as you use electricity? If there is, fractions of the units would be useful over the time periods you are looking at it.

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