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So now I have a solar PV system how do I make the most of it???

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  • EricMears
    EricMears Posts: 3,308 Forumite
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    don0301 wrote: »
    I understand for a listed building you need planning consent, and possibly listed building consent.

    I also understand you cannot ground mount in the grounds of a listed building without permission either.

    Someone with a listed building and panels can probably correct me or not :D

    that rules you out apparently cardew :D

    I wouldn't be surprised if churches come under different rules, cos they are not a habitable building or classed as a charity? dunno


    It probably doesn't affect many of us so hardly worth going into great detail. I really only mentiond the point just in case it was putting someone off applying.

    If you did need both sets of (planning & listed buildings) consent, just asking for one of them would almost certainly get you a reminder to apply for the other.

    'Grounds' is a pretty wide term. Listed Building consent would probably apply to main building, immediately adjacent outbuildings & the domestic hereditament (garden in peasant speak) but not necessarily to the rest of the estate. But any competent estate manager should know all that stuff alread
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • don0301
    don0301 Posts: 442 Forumite
    EricMears wrote: »
    It probably doesn't affect many of us so hardly worth going into great detail. I really only mentiond the point just in case it was putting someone off applying.

    If you did need both sets of (planning & listed buildings) consent, just asking for one of them would almost certainly get you a reminder to apply for the other.

    'Grounds' is a pretty wide term. Listed Building consent would probably apply to main building, immediately adjacent outbuildings & the domestic hereditament (garden in peasant speak) but not necessarily to the rest of the estate. But any competent estate manager should know all that stuff alread

    this might help you with the actual facts

    http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/solarpanels/


    quote:
    1. Do you need permission
    2. Common Projects
    3. Solar Panels
    Solar Panels

    You are viewing guidance for England. To view guidance specific to Wales, please select the 'Welsh site' option from the top right of this page.
    Planning Permission

    In many cases fixing solar panels to your roof is likely to be considered 'permitted development' under planning law with no need to apply for planning permission. There are, however, important exceptions and provisos which must be observed.
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    If you are a leaseholder, you may need to get permission from your landlord, freeholder or management company.
    All solar installations are subject to the following conditions:
    • Panels on a building should be sited, so far as is practicable, to minimise the effect on the appearance of the building.
    • They should be sited, so far as is practicable, to minimise the effect on the amenity of the area.
    • When no longer needed for microgeneration they should be removed as soon as possible.
    Roof and Wall Mounted Solar Panels
    The following limits apply to roof and wall mounted solar panels:
    • Panels should not be installed above the ridgeline and should project no more than 200mm from the roof or wall surface.
    • If your property is a listed building installation is likely to require an application for listed building consent, even where planning permission is not needed.
    • Wall mounted only - if your property is in a conservation area, or in a World Heritage Site, planning consent is required when panels are to be fitted on the principal or side elevation walls and they are visible from the highway. If panels are to be fitted to a building in your garden or grounds they should not be visible from the highway.
    Standalone Solar Panels
    The following limits apply to standalone solar panels:
    • Should be no higher than four metres
    • Should be at least 5m from boundaries
    • Size of array is limited to 9 sq m or 3m wide and 3m deep
    • Should not be installed within boundary of a listed building
    • In the case of land in a conservation area or in a World Heritage Site it should not be visible from the highway.
    • Only one stand alone solar installation is permitted.
  • EricMears
    EricMears Posts: 3,308 Forumite
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    don0301 wrote: »
    I'm sure all the owners of listed buildings who weren't capable of a quick Google themselves (or of briefing their estate manager) will show their appreciation in the usual way.
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • don0301
    don0301 Posts: 442 Forumite
    EricMears wrote: »
    I'm sure all the owners of listed buildings who weren't capable of a quick Google themselves (or of briefing their estate manager) will show their appreciation in the usual way.

    you were commenting on it

    i was happy to correct you

    your welcome
  • Kernel_Sanders
    Kernel_Sanders Posts: 3,617 Forumite
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    don0301 wrote: »
    you were commenting on it

    i was happy to correct you

    your welcome

    I am also happy to correct you; it's you're.
  • zeupater
    zeupater Posts: 5,389 Forumite
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    EricMears wrote: »
    It probably doesn't affect many of us so hardly worth going into great detail. I really only mentiond the point just in case it was putting someone off applying.

    If you did need both sets of (planning & listed buildings) consent, just asking for one of them would almost certainly get you a reminder to apply for the other.

    'Grounds' is a pretty wide term. Listed Building consent would probably apply to main building, immediately adjacent outbuildings & the domestic hereditament (garden in peasant speak) but not necessarily to the rest of the estate. But any competent estate manager should know all that stuff alread
    Hi

    I agree - I know someone with a listed building (actually multiple listed buildings) who has a very large roof mounted solar array within the complex of buildings, just not on the listed ones, which is positioned sympathetically so as to not create a visual impact issue ... this was allowed & passed off by planning.

    HTH
    Z
    "We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit. " ...... Aristotle
    B)
  • Martyn1981
    Martyn1981 Posts: 15,381 Forumite
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    I am also happy to correct you; it's you're.

    Well I'm glad to see that everyone is happy, and correct. Can I be correctly happy that I got a 10 today, when the weather wasn't actually all that good? Panels starting to pick up slowly. Good month so far, but roll on April and May.

    So good days all round? Lots of stuff washed, even if it didn't need it? ;)

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • don0301
    don0301 Posts: 442 Forumite
    I am also happy to correct you; it's you're.

    grats on joining cardew as grammar police
  • don0301
    don0301 Posts: 442 Forumite
    edited 9 March 2012 at 2:53AM
    zeupater wrote: »
    Hi

    I agree - I know someone with a listed building (actually multiple listed buildings) who has a very large roof mounted solar array within the complex of buildings, just not on the listed ones, which is positioned sympathetically so as to not create a visual impact issue ... this was allowed & passed off by planning.

    HTH
    Z

    which buildings in the curtilage of a listed building don't come under listed building rules?
    EricMears wrote: »
    It does seem a little strange that anyone without solar panels should feel they have anything to contribute to a thread entitled "So now I have a solar PV system how do I make the most of it???" . I certainly joined the debate hoping that someone would be offering useful pointers on how to maximise the advantages of having them.

    One minor error that's crept in (and quoted above): just because a building is 'listed' doesn't necessarily mean that solar panels can't be fitted- it just means that you can't assume automatic planning consent. There have been several recent examples of very old churches (which should have listed status) being allowed to fit panels on South facing rooves which canot be seen from the ground. Or of course, many listed buildings would have a few spare acres of land and could put a ground mounted array in the South meadow.

    as i pointed out:

    http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/solarpanels/

    Standalone Solar Panels






    The following limits apply to standalone solar panels:
    • Should be no higher than four metres
    • Should be at least 5m from boundaries
    • Size of array is limited to 9 sq m or 3m wide and 3m deep
    • Should not be installed within boundary of a listed building
    • In the case of land in a conservation area or in a World Heritage Site it should not be visible from the highway.
    • Only one stand alone solar installation is permitted.
    so, no, he was not correct zeupater

    if you plan on putting ground mounted panels within the boundary of a listed building, you need planning permission according to the Government website i have linked.
  • Veryhandyman
    Veryhandyman Posts: 1 Newbie
    edited 9 March 2012 at 9:06AM
    Have just had 16 Panels fitted a 4K/Watt System that’s 250Watts from each panel, the Company that fitted it were supposed to fit a SMA 4000tl inverter and said they couldn’t get one and that the SMA 3600tl/20 is the same
    The 3600 is capped at 3600Watts and they said the 4000 is capped (is this correct) (Could any body out there please advise me?)
    They also connected the live wire to the consumer unit to the feed side of the sockets/ring main that meant if I had turned off the sockets to do some work that it would still have been live!
    They came back and fitted a separate circuit breaker 16amp
    How many more have they done like this should I report them.
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