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  • Ellidee
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    Yay to the gluten free 'stuff' KC :)
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  • Lula-Hula
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    Hello KC,

    apologies for log absence from your thread & many thanks for keeping on with adding such supportive & encouraging posts on mine :kisses3:.

    Interesting stuff about go-bags, although Squizz, I can't help thinking that if perhaps you remembered some seeds as well, a gro-bag might not be such a bad idea :rotfl:

    Back when the govt sent that emergency procedures booklet to all & sundry, I got together a supply of various things & [STRIKE]neurotically[/STRIKE] enthusiastically checked it almost every week. Eventually I got fed up with how it made me feel so anxious & almost waiting for disaster to strike, but I do now keep a bag with our passports, various hygiene stuff in & used to also keep about £200 cash as well. The fuel in my car never dips below a quarter tank either :o.

    Since the DF journey began, I did at some point use up the £200 emergency cash but have recently been thinking that it would be a good idea to replace it.

    As far as what else to take, crikey, with all the technology these days, it'd take ages; laptops, phones, chargers etc etc. I'll just grab DD, the cat, my keys & my shoes, my lovely, lovely shoes :D
  • Karmacat
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    Ellidee wrote: »
    Yay to the gluten free 'stuff' KC :)

    Ellidee, you posted about it too, thank you :kisses3:.
    Lula-Hula wrote: »
    Hello KC,

    apologies for log absence from your thread & many thanks for keeping on with adding such supportive & encouraging posts on mine :kisses3:.
    Well, I post a lot more often than you :o more difficult for you to keep up with me, than for me to keep up with you :rotfl:


    Interesting stuff about go-bags, although Squizz, I can't help thinking that if perhaps you remembered some seeds as well, a gro-bag might not be such a bad idea :rotfl:

    Back when the govt sent that emergency procedures booklet to all & sundry, I got together a supply of various things & [STRIKE]neurotically[/STRIKE] enthusiastically checked it almost every week. Eventually I got fed up with how it made me feel so anxious & almost waiting for disaster to strike, but I do now keep a bag with our passports, various hygiene stuff in & used to also keep about £200 cash as well. The fuel in my car never dips below a quarter tank either :o.

    I can understand that, I really can! I like the sound of keeping all really important paperwork together with hygiene stuff. I also like the idea of a list that you yourself have written of what to do - for instance, yours might say, not only "get dried fruit", but "get all shoes" :D:D:D

    Since the DF journey began, I did at some point use up the £200 emergency cash but have recently been thinking that it would be a good idea to replace it.

    It feels very unlikely, doesn't it - but then, I had a flood myself, there *are* riots, Taxi felt those earthquakes a couple of months ago - you just can't tell.

    As far as what else to take, crikey, with all the technology these days, it'd take ages; laptops, phones, chargers etc etc. I'll just grab DD, the cat, my keys & my shoes, my lovely, lovely shoes :D

    Yep, I believe you :j:j:j

    I've been out in the garden - done a little bit of about half a dozen jobs - one lot of stones out, bit of grass cut, some weeds by the compost bin cleared, compost from the kitchen emptied, some dead sedge cut down and composted, and, ta-da, edges of where I was digging to widen the border have been tidied and very slightly extended - and I've put down bricks (only on the bare soil, but better than nothing) to make it clear where things are. I made myself stop, and also made sure I had something to eat - still got some work to do. And after that, I reward myself with fried egg on **gluten free** toast :j:j:j

    Hope everyone has a nice Friday night :)
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  • Lula-Hula
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    Well done on all the work in the garden KC :) & the approved foods stuff sounds great too.

    Don't forget to soothe your body after such strenuous work.
  • Karmacat
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    Oops .... well, I had a good long sit (and nearly fell asleep). I'm working in 40 mins now tho - I'll do some stretching :)

    thanks Lula.
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  • ZTD
    ZTD Posts: 24,327 Forumite
    Karmacat wrote: »
    Huh ... I've just been reading about go-bags, after the experiences Hypno's friends have endured ... per head of population, the USA seems to have more of these disasters than Europe. More hurricanes, more tornadoes (I know we're supposed to have the most in the world - but they must be tiny compared to what the US has); even our earthquakes are usually pretty tiny. There *are* disasters here that need evacuation occasionally, of course. Don't think I'll actually pack a go-bag, but a list of what to take, and what to do, would probably be a real advantage.

    Unfortunately, although the concept behind a go-bag is good and well tested it is unfortunately as unique as everyone. You've got the limitation of space (the ideal one for continuing your lifestyle is an exact replica of your house...a touch bulky me thinks...) and expense. So what you're going to have to do is :eek::eek::eek::eek: a risk assessment... :eek::eek::eek:

    You're going to have to think up (or read a newspaper) relevant "disasters" and think of what you would need in order to cope with them - and arrange in order of priority.

    So, to pick a few off the top of my head, terrorist attack, fire, toxic spill.

    Now given where I live, a terrorist attack just isn't going to happen here, so I wouldn't specifically prepare for it. I'd also make the same judgement for you KC, but other people who live in London, it's a completely different assessment. So now you have to think about what would happen, and what you'd need to cope with what would happen, and what their priorities are.

    Some things you absolutely would not want to live without, other stuff you could live without if you were desperate, and other stuff you could live without unless you had a sherpa to hump it around.

    Fire: My house is flammable, as indeed are most other people's. So that's a possible one.

    Toxic spill: My house is near a main road. Not likely here - but possible.

    And so the process goes on. You'll eventually come up with a list of stuff that would suit a bunch of "disasters".

    Absolute minimum list for me: toothbrush, toilet paper.
    Karmacat wrote: »
    So, in my trusty shopping cart (they all go on about it being a backpack - might have to tie one on, but I can't carry anything realistically in a backpack): external hard drive. Or computer?; water; emergency food; paperwork;

    The traditional method of this are your documents scanned, encrypted, and stuck on a USB drive. Put it on a necklace so you can hang it around your neck and forget about it.
    Karmacat wrote: »
    1 change of clothes; first aid kit; pack of cards; phone, chargers, windup radio, toothbrush and toothpaste.

    It's better to have a list of priorities, and to pack bags within bags. You may turn up to your evacuation coach with this:

    686453-travel-big-red-backpack-woman.jpeg

    only to find out you can only fit this in:

    bumbag.bmp.jpg

    Your bumbag better have the toilet paper... ;)
    Karmacat wrote: »
    And a list of what to do - turning off gas and electricity is mentioned,

    Turning off the gas may not be recommended in winter when you have water in the pipes. I would never turn electricity off. I may unplug stuff that I don't trust to be left unattended for long periods (i.e. the kettle) but that's about it.
    Karmacat wrote: »
    as is chucking the contents of the freezer and fridge so that the food doesn't grow into a different life-form.

    That's not going to stop it - it'll just grow into a different life-form in your bin. And it's a hell of a waste if you get sent back 2 hours later. Let it do it's evolution thing in your fridge and worry about the clean-up later.
    Karmacat wrote: »
    Dear me. It seems like a disaster movie come to life. Must stop this!

    It's only a disaster if you can't cope with it. Until then it's only a problem.
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  • Nice one Z! Brings it into perspective.

    Oh, and its definately easier to just chuck a freezer at a recycling place and run without looking inside first ;).
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  • ZTD
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    Nice one Z! Brings it into perspective.

    Oh, and its definately easier to just chuck a freezer at a recycling place and run without looking inside first ;).

    I hear the sound of experience here...did they have to nuke it from orbit? ;)
    "Follow the money!" - Deepthroat (AKA William Mark Felt Sr - Associate Director of the FBI)
    "We were born and raised in a summer haze." Adele 'Someone like you.'
    "Blowing your mind, 'cause you know what you'll find, when you're looking for things in the sky."
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  • taxi73
    taxi73 Posts: 20,815 Forumite
    Z definitely has the right thought processes regarding this and USB sticks are a great idea,ID and money,bank cards definitely needed and insurance documents..most other stuff easily replaceable.
  • Karmacat
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    edited 10 September 2011 at 8:55AM
    Brilliant post, Z, thank you :kisses3:
    ZTD wrote: »
    Unfortunately, although the concept behind a go-bag is good and well tested it is unfortunately as unique as everyone. You've got the limitation of space (the ideal one for continuing your lifestyle is an exact replica of your house...a touch bulky me thinks...) and expense. So what you're going to have to do is :eek::eek::eek::eek: a risk assessment... :eek::eek::eek:

    You're going to have to think up (or read a newspaper) relevant "disasters" and think of what you would need in order to cope with them - and arrange in order of priority.

    Very sensible :kisses3:
    So, to pick a few off the top of my head, terrorist attack, fire, toxic spill.

    Now given where I live, a terrorist attack just isn't going to happen here, so I wouldn't specifically prepare for it. I'd also make the same judgement for you KC, but other people who live in London, it's a completely different assessment. So now you have to think about what would happen, and what you'd need to cope with what would happen, and what their priorities are.
    I suppose the only big potential problem round me would be something really big on the train track between London and the south coast, if it was on the bit thats near me, or something equally big at Gatwick - I'm thinking airborne contamination - if you look at 9/11 footage and all that concrete dust - concrete is toxic, as Kevin McCloud chatters on about endlessly - might want to have a really good DIY mask ...
    Some things you absolutely would not want to live without, other stuff you could live without if you were desperate, and other stuff you could live without unless you had a sherpa to hump it around.

    :D:D:D Oh *that* sherpa! He's very nice, lives in a tent, dontchaknow, he's a real help :)
    Fire: My house is flammable, as indeed are most other people's. So that's a possible one.
    And thats the one that most concerns me - all my backing up the laptop is useless if the backup is also in the house when it burns down :(
    Toxic spill: My house is near a main road. Not likely here - but possible.

    And so the process goes on. You'll eventually come up with a list of stuff that would suit a bunch of "disasters".


    Absolute minimum list for me: toothbrush, toilet paper.
    I think I'm with you on the minimum :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
    The traditional method of this are your documents scanned, encrypted, and stuck on a USB drive. Put it on a necklace so you can hang it around your neck and forget about it.
    Ooh, now this is interesting too - I just had a look at my external hard drive - its actually about the size of four compact discs in jewel cases ... you know what, with having gathered so much stuff over the years, I'd take that as well as a usb stick round my neck - it has things on it, like my genealogy research and early family photos, that are irreplaceable. As well as a decade of fanfiction :D:D:D


    It's better to have a list of priorities, and to pack bags within bags.

    Your bumbag better have the toilet paper... ;)

    :j:D:j:D:j:D
    Turning off the gas may not be recommended in winter when you have water in the pipes. I would never turn electricity off. I may unplug stuff that I don't trust to be left unattended for long periods (i.e. the kettle) but that's about it.

    Some research needed there, I think, for me ...
    That's not going to stop it - it'll just grow into a different life-form in your bin. And it's a hell of a waste if you get sent back 2 hours later. Let it do it's evolution thing in your fridge and worry about the clean-up later.
    I think I mentioned that because of the whole thing about throwing out the fridge freezer, which is what a lot of people do, apparently - as a greenie, its a real waste. In practical terms, I might well empty the fridge, but I'd be more likely to put things in containers that are easily washed (glass or something) and deal with it when I got back.


    It's only a disaster if you can't cope with it. Until then it's only a problem.

    Love it :j:j:j
    So, to pick a few off the top of my head, terrorist attack, fire, toxic spill.

    Now given where I live, a terrorist attack just isn't going to happen here, so I wouldn't specifically prepare for it. I'd also make the same judgement for you KC, but other people who live in London, it's a completely different assessment. So now you have to think about what would happen, and what you'd need to cope with what would happen, and what their priorities are.
    I suppose the only big potential problem round me would be something really big on the train track between London and the south coast, if it was on the bit thats near me, or something equally big at Gatwick - I'm thinking airborne contamination - if you look at 9/11 footage and all that concrete dust - concrete is toxic, as Kevin McCloud chatters on about endlessly - might want to have a really good DIY mask ...
    Some things you absolutely would not want to live without, other stuff you could live without if you were desperate, and other stuff you could live without unless you had a sherpa to hump it around.
    :D:D:D Oh *that* sherpa! He's very nice, lives in a tent, dontchaknow, he's a real help :)
    Fire: My house is flammable, as indeed are most other people's. So that's a possible one.
    And thats the one that most concerns me - all my backing up the laptop is useless if the backup is also in the house when it burns down :(
    Toxic spill: My house is near a main road. Not likely here - but possible.

    And so the process goes on. You'll eventually come up with a list of stuff that would suit a bunch of "disasters".


    Absolute minimum list for me: toothbrush, toilet paper.
    I think I'm with you on the minimum :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
    The traditional method of this are your documents scanned, encrypted, and stuck on a USB drive. Put it on a necklace so you can hang it around your neck and forget about it.
    Ooh, now this is interesting too - I just had a look at my external hard drive - its actually about the size of four compact discs in jewel cases ... you know what, with having gathered so much stuff over the years, I'd take that as well as a usb stick round my neck - it has things on it, like my genealogy research and early family photos, that are irreplaceable. As well as a decade of fanfiction :D:D:D


    It's better to have a list of priorities, and to pack bags within bags.

    Your bumbag better have the toilet paper... ;)
    :j:D:j:D:j:D
    Turning off the gas may not be recommended in winter when you have water in the pipes. I would never turn electricity off. I may unplug stuff that I don't trust to be left unattended for long periods (i.e. the kettle) but that's about it.
    Some research needed there, I think, for me ...
    That's not going to stop it - it'll just grow into a different life-form in your bin. And it's a hell of a waste if you get sent back 2 hours later. Let it do it's evolution thing in your fridge and worry about the clean-up later.
    I think I mentioned that because of the whole thing about throwing out the fridge freezer, which is what a lot of people do, apparently - as a greenie, its a real waste. In practical terms, I might well empty the fridge, but I'd be more likely to put things in containers that are easily washed (glass or something) and deal with it when I got back.


    It's only a disaster if you can't cope with it. Until then it's only a problem.
    Love it :j:j:j
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