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Spam American Share Offers

There have been a couple of threads about these recently. One of these helpfully contained a link to the United States Securities and Exchange Commission in Washington. This in turn gave an email address where you could forward Spam share offers for investigation.

As I get between 12 and 18 of these messages per week I tried forwarding them to the SEC. I have now received a standard reply from them (extract below) so other people might like to forward any shares Spam they receive as well. If enough people do this the SEC might take some notice. Just forward any Spam emails to enforcement@sec.gov

Here's part of the reply they send out:

Dear Sir or Madam:
Thank you for your recent e-mail to the group electronic mailbox of the Division of Enforcement at the United States Securities and Exchange Commission in Washington, D.C. We appreciate your taking the time to write to us. This automated response confirms that the Division of Enforcement has received your e-mail. You can rest assured that an attorney in the Office of Internet Enforcement will review your e-mail promptly.

We are always interested in hearing from members of the public, and you may be assured that the matter you have raised is being given careful consideration in view of the Commission's overall enforcement responsibilities under the federal securities laws. It is, however, the Commission's policy to conduct its inquiries on a confidential basis -- so this may be the only response that you receive.
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  • TNG
    TNG Posts: 6,930 Forumite
    I'm getting increasingly annoyed with this. It started out as one or two but I've just deleted another half dozen from my inbox

    Now I know what to do with them - thanks!
    :dance:There's a real buzz about the neighbourhood :dance:
  • MickKnipfler
    MickKnipfler Posts: 1,983 Forumite
    You mean like this?:

    The accumulation of positions by those in the know has shot
    A_U_N_I up 33% in a few short days. We hope you all got in
    early like we told you to, and are enjoying your good fortune.
    But even if you didn't don't worry because the big announcement
    has yet to be made. Monday, October 30 may be your last chance
    before this thing triples. Don't hesitate.

    Price: O.85
    Projected: 2.3O
    Rating: 5/5

    This is the break you've been waiting for! Spice up your
    holdings with A_U_N_I and WIN!




    What are they trying to achieve?
  • wadewade
    wadewade Posts: 735 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    They create a shell company that usually has no present assets but great future prospects (oilwells, etc) and buy themselves millions of shares for next to nothing.

    Then they hype the shares to mugs with these emails.

    As people buy the share price goes up. Then they sell their holdings and disappear overnight. Mugs finish up with shares of no value.
  • TNG
    TNG Posts: 6,930 Forumite
    What are they trying to achieve?


    If enough people fall for it and buy shares, the price will go up, meaning the perpetrators can then dump theirs at a profit. With the price so small, even a minor shift upwards can reap huge dividends for those who have bought a large quantity

    'Pump and dump' I believe it's referred to as

    edit : d'oh - cross posted
    :dance:There's a real buzz about the neighbourhood :dance:
  • MickKnipfler
    MickKnipfler Posts: 1,983 Forumite
    'Pump and dump' I believe it's referred to as

    I think I did that to a girl once....
  • buglawton
    buglawton Posts: 9,246 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Spam filters will miss these as the spam message is in an image. There's a thread on fighting this kind of spam at http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?p=3331679#post3331679 but no easy answer yet.
  • wadewade
    wadewade Posts: 735 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    That's why I think it would be a good idea for as many people as possible to forward such spam emails to the SEC (see above). If they can see the extent of the problem they might be more inclined to act.
  • buglawton
    buglawton Posts: 9,246 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    2 thoughts occurred:
    1. It must be a doddle to find out who is doing the fraud as all share transactions are monitored in microscopic detail by the SEC.
    2. Maybe you can make money by buying a large portfolio of penny shares, reading the spam emails and doing the exact opposite of what they recommend (ie sell when they suggest buy, as the message will be just prior to a DUMP as in pump'n'dump).
  • LULUBELLE_2
    LULUBELLE_2 Posts: 1,103 Forumite
    'Pump and dump' I believe it's referred to as

    I think I did that to a girl once....

    It was you!!! You have a son that wants to contact you.......................:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
    I only exist in my own mind - if you can see, hear or read me, you are a product of my imagination.
  • LULUBELLE wrote:
    It was you!!! You have a son that wants to contact you.......................:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


    You're not that girl that nicknamed me "Justin" are you?
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