BTL, vile lowlife business, nobody wants to be living under their roofs

System

chucknorris wrote: »

3. Using the 'long term average of price to rents ratio' seems a novel way to value houses, how long was the period they are using,

Well spotted, I actually had a little chuckle when I read the key, wasn't sure if anyone else would bother with the small print.

Still, rents are shooting up so perhaps they will see that figure reduce.

StevieJ

chucknorris wrote: »

Yes exactly, plus it isn't what I want to be doing either, although sometimes it's difficult to let some things pass with comment.

Changing the subject completely, do you think we might see the Ftse 100 break 6,000 before the new year?

Definitely

diable

Joeskeppi wrote: »

"The more you attack the greed of these people the more personal and nastier they get"

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"vile lowlife "

" lowest form of reptilian scum that is the modern day BTL landlord"

"spiv type slimey and in many cases uneducated morons"

Honestly, what is wrong with some people.

Nothing at all.......

chucknorris

StevieJ wrote: »

Definitely

Yep just noticed myself

twadge_face

chucknorris wrote: »

1. What shoddy BTL rules are you talking about?

Well, by shoddy, I mean the basic complete lack of regulation about any human who can let a property to any other human. Don't let it be a problem to your general perceptive limitations.

2. Shoddy BTL LL's, isn't that a bit of a generalisation

So what if it is? Isn't everyone entitled to an opinion? I've had some awful experiences as a tenant, heard a lot of difficult stories from my friends who rent, and heard some shocking tales about the landlord activities about my friends who are landlords.

Sure, some play nicely when it suits them (?), but only because some landlords have consciences.

Unfortunately most landlords I know of seem to play by the easiest/laziest self-imposed rules for their own gain, and F**K everyone else!

The funniest landlords are those who say they're providing a social service of some sort.

3. Using the 'long term average of price to rents ratio' seems a novel way to value houses, how long was the period they are using, maybe some 'basis' changes have ocurred since then, hard to comment without knowing the precise nature of the data they have used. Did they use that data because it produced the table with the numbers in it that they wanted? Maybe I am being unfair though maybe in countries where rental property is much more common, the rental yield is a more appropriate way of valuing property. However if that is the case, I would suggest that maybe it is therefore not that appropriate to apply it to the UK where home ownership is much more common. That's just my hunch though, I do not actually know much about home ownership in other countries.

Look at my face. Does it look like I give a d*mn about science?

I'm just joining in on a thread about the REALITY of BTL.

If you can't handle it, get back to your mansion and make the best of the relatively-recent and relatively-new class segregation imposed upon the rest of us by a bunch of idiot mindless "investors" and a government complicit with thoughtless selfish greed.

chucknorris

!!!!!!_face wrote: »

Well, by shoddy, I mean the basic complete lack of regulation about any human who can let a property to any other human. Don't let it be a problem to your general perceptive limitations.

I think you will find that there is quite a lot of housing law, so maybe it's your perception at fault?

So what if it is? Isn't everyone entitled to an opinion? I've had some awful experiences as a tenant, heard a lot of difficult stories from my friends who rent, and heard some shocking tales about the landlord activities about my friends who are landlords.

Sure, some play nicely when it suits them (?), but only because some landlords have consciences.

Unfortunately most landlords I know of seem to play by the easiest/laziest self-imposed rules for their own gain, and F**K everyone else!

The funniest landlords are those who say they're providing a social service of some sort.

If this is how you behave in real life it doesn't surprise me that you have had some bad experiences I can certainly see why decent landlords would give you a wide berth.

Look at my face. Does it look like I give a d*mn about science?


I'm just joining in on a thread about the REALITY of BTL.

If you can't handle it, get back to your mansion and make the best of the relatively-recent and relatively-new class segregation imposed upon the rest of us by a bunch of idiot mindless "investors" and a government complicit with thoughtless selfish greed.

Do you not get tired carrying that huge chip on your shoulder all day long?

twadge_face

An interesting, albeit disappointing response.

chucknorris wrote: »

I think you will find that there is quite a lot of housing law, so maybe it's your perception at fault?

Such as... ?? ...that protects tenants amidst a laughably-named "assured tenancy"?

If this is how you behave in real life it doesn't surprise me that you have had some bad experiences I can certainly see why decent landlords would give you a wide berth.

Sorry, you've lost me. I don't believe I gave any indication about how I behaved. I'm a quiet friendly person and get on well in life.

Do you not get tired carrying that huge chip on your shoulder all day long?

Hehe.


EDIT: You accuse me of having a chip on my shoulder. Why are YOU on this forum, mate? Why are YOU defending BTL landlords? What have YOU got to lose? Hitler had a chip on his shoulder and looked what happened there. You need to watch those folks with chips on shoulders </poor taste gag>

chucknorris

!!!!!!_face wrote: »

An interesting, albeit disappointing response.


Such as... ?? ...that protects tenants amidst a laughably-named "assured tenancy"?

The right to have an annual gas safety check
The right to be given not less than two months notice to vacate
The right not to be evicted without a court order even if you are not paying the rent and are in arrears
The right to a minimum period of 6 months for AST's
The right to have quiet enjoyment of the property
The right to have your deposit protected
The right to have a third party adjudicate on deductions to your deposit
The right to have the property kept in a reasonable state of repair especially to structure, services, heating and bathing items.
The right to receive an EPC (European directive, not housing law)






EDIT: You accuse me of having a chip on my shoulder. Why are YOU on this forum, mate? Why are YOU defending BTL landlords? What have YOU got to lose? Hitler had a chip on his shoulder and looked what happened there. You need to watch those folks with chips on shoulders </poor taste gag>

I speak for myself, I am a landlord (amongst other things). I do not speak for all LL's, I of course realise that that across the board in all spectrums of life there will be good and bad in all groups of people (something you seem unaware of). What have I to lose? Absolutely nothing I am here merely for keeping myself updated and entertainment.

You certainly (along with the OP) appear to have a chip on your shoulder, not I. I get on well with all of tenants and realise one or some bad tenants does not mean all are bad.


Don't you think it's a bit irrational to drag Hitler into this?

The_Fox_3

diable wrote: »

Maybe all LL's should go out on strike and on a set date serve the relevant papers and evict their tenants and accept no new people, leave it for a month so people who want to rent are desperate then double the prices.

Just a thought.........

And a dumb one at that!

The_Fox_3

THE_GHOULISH_CODPIECE wrote: »

BIG difference.

They invested into the infrastructure of this countries economy whilst provide a valuable service.

Non=BTLers don't.

No they don't!

If every BTL wre to vanish tonight(you can only pray) not one house would vanish with them.