Hills, snow and ice

alastairq

keep 'em in two wheel drive?

waddayamean, you can't?

Oh dear......are we at long last actually believing all that hype about technology?

Pot holes have reared their ugly heads...on our local media...instigated by the ABD....

[not an association I would wish to be associated with......so to speak].

darich

Lum wrote: »

Because you can still get stuck in them, I mean legitimately without driving like a nob on low profile tyres.

If your law ever gets implemented, I'm buying shares in winches.

It's not the profile of the tyre that's the problem - it's the width.
A tyre that has a profile of 65 will have the same level of grip as one with a profile of 35 if the width is the same.
I appreciate that often lower profile means wider but better to be clear for any on here unsure about driving in the snow.

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

"new" 4 wheel drivers, mostly school mums realise they have a grip advantage over 2 wheels drive cars, that the majority drive. Fair enough. But what they fail to realise is that once under momentum, ie, trying to brake downhill, they are more difficult to control than the average car.

Precisely.
I've told numerous people in my office that in a 4 wheel drive you have a massive advantage going uphill.....but when slowing down or going round corners it's just as easy to go off the road in a 4wd as it is in a 2wd

Lum

I meant to write "low profile summer tyres" referring to the gigantic blingy alloys that come on the type of 4x4 that is never driver off road.

Inactive

Lum wrote: »

I meant to write "low profile summer tyres" referring to the gigantic blingy alloys that come on the type of 4x4 that is never driver off road.

The only time that I see them " off road " is when they are parked on and blocking the pavement outside the local school.

Wig

tomstickland wrote: »

Oh dear. He did swing it a bit hard for that lane change.

What did you mean in your youtube comment ?

"The middle lane hoggers didn't help"

Was it a joke? The other cars are driving outside of the lane with the snow, not hogging the middle lane. I'm sure the video maker is actually driving half on the hard shoulder And the videomaker has put a comment up saying "I got more grip on the snow" :rotfl:

The lyrics sound funny too, "like a cheese snacks, like a cheese snacks"

Strider590

Wig wrote: »

What did you mean in your youtube comment ?

"The middle lane hoggers didn't help"

Was it a joke? The other cars are driving outside of the lane with the snow, not hogging the middle lane. I'm sure the video maker is actually driving half on the hard shoulder And the videomaker has put a comment up saying "I got more grip on the snow" :rotfl:

The lyrics sound funny too, "like a cheese snacks, like a cheese snacks"

^^ The other day on a local dual carriageway, I was driving in the snowed up lane because the "clear" lane was actually sheet ice with a mile long queue of people doing 15mph.... In that lane the car was snaking all over the shop, then as soon as I changed lane I was able to do 30-40 with no problem whatsoever. I very soon had 5 or more cars following me in that lane.

Looks can be deceiving, don't always assume that the "clear" lane is actually "clear" or even safe for that matter.

alastairq

strangely, the more drivers avoid the snowy bits, the harder it freezes and the more restricted a carriageway becomes.

Traffic is actually needed to clear the snow.......

Wig

Driving in lane 1 in this video may have been ok* but probably inadvisable as lanes 2 & 3 were both having no problems what so ever, and were able to stop when he came across and crashed in front of them.

*However this guy was not in lane 1 he had entered the deep snow on the hard shoulder, you can see the hard shoulder line on the road and the lane 1 dashed line is far over to the right. This guy is a prize turkey.

tomstickland

Wig wrote: »

I'm sure the video maker is actually driving half on the hard shoulder

He's driving in the left hand lane out of three.
The barriers are at the edge of the hard shoulder.

darich

tomstickland wrote: »

Yes. Brakes work on 4 wheels, low gears work on 2.
I'd rather be coasting in neutral and using the brakes if it's icy.

The engine and transmission will help slow you down so by selecting neutral you're increasing your stopping distance.

It's funny that some folk seem to think they're better than the safety devices built into cars. No doubt you disable your airbag and rely on a large cushion connected to a driver operated footpump because you probably think you're faster than the explosive that inflates the airbag.

Let me know when you're going out so I can avoid you please.