Parking a HGV in a residential street?

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  • mrbadexample
    mrbadexample Posts: 10,805 Forumite
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    Hammyman wrote: »
    How do you know its not relevant you lorry hating !!!! gobbler?

    That's it, throw some insults around to emphasise your point. That'll make your argument so much more convincing. :) I do not hate lorries. Nor most of their drivers, for that matter. Like any other job, you get the good, and the bad.

    How is the fact that you can buy a rigid, put a generator on it, and use it in the course of your business without an operator's licence relevant to the fact that a goods vehicle is parking in a residential area?
    Hammyman wrote: »
    Are you the driver of the lorry? Are you employed in his traffic office?

    :think: No, not that I'm aware of. I'm sure I'd have noticed the extra wages coming in if I was. But once again, that has absolutely no relevance to this thread, which is about HGV parking.
    Hammyman wrote: »
    In fact, have you ever worked as a lorry driver

    Briefly, only in a 7½ tonner. Not for me really; terrible sense of direction. :p
    Hammyman wrote: »
    or transport manager? Do you even hold a Cat C licence?

    No, and no. Neither of which are relevant to this thread. I don't have to be either to have a reasonable working knowledge of the system, which appears to be more than you have.

    Incidentally, how much of your vehicle's maximum permitted gross weight (you'll find that on the ministry plate, if you know where to look) is taken up by that giant chip on your shoulder? :rotfl:
    If you lend someone a tenner and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
  • mrbadexample
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    Hammyman wrote: »
    Lorries don't get crushed for no O licence, even if the owner is hauled in front of the TC

    Any more rumours anyone wants dispelling?

    More guesswork Hammyman?

    Goods Vehicles (Enforcement Powers) Regulations 2001

    3. Detention of property

    (1) Where an authorised person has reason to believe that a vehicle is being, or has been, used on a road in contravention of section 2 of the 1995 Act, he may detain the vehicle and its contents.


    15. Disposal of vehicles
    (1) If :-
    1. (a) no application for the return of a vehicle is made in accordance with regulation 10; or
      (b) such an application is made but the traffic commissioner, or the Transport Tribunal in the event of an appeal under regulation 13, determines that none of the grounds specified in regulation 10(4) is made out,
    the authorised person may sell or destroy the vehicle as he thinks fit.


    Any more rubbish you want to spout? You ought to quit while you're behind; you're out of your depth. ;)

    MBE
    Not a transport manager. Or a driver. :cool:
    If you lend someone a tenner and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
  • mrbadexample
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    With regard to 'O licenses' ,, rules are changing,you need to have an 'O' type license if you run a 7.5t or above, whether you use it for rewrd or not.
    Family friends who run classic tractors, go to ploughing events ( i know, each to their own) have to pay £100 per yr to have a licence to move the tractors around on their 7.5t beavertail, if they wanted to use the truck to move cars around, they would have to pay £500.

    Sorry, optimus, but this is both confused and incorrect. There's no such thing as an 'O' type licence. Provided that your friends make no profit from the ploughing events (this could include prize money) then they do not need an operators' licence to move their own tractors on a 7.5 tonne vehicle. They have been misinformed. The costs you quote are also incorrect, and would not be different according to the load carried.
    If you lend someone a tenner and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
  • mrbadexample
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    ROY47 wrote: »
    If the lorry in the origonal topic has an operators licence . it's breaking the rules being parked overnight if it is

    Not necessarily. The operating centre is the place where the vehicle is normally kept:

    7. Operating centres to be specified in operators’ licences.


    (3) In this Act 'operating centre' , in relation to any vehicle, means the base or centre at which the vehicle is normally kept, and references to an operating centre of the holder of an operator’s licence are references to any place which is an operating centre for vehicles used under that licence.


    Subject to any applicable restrictions it may be quite legally parked, on an occasional basis, in a residential area. The problem arises when the vehicle is regularly parked there. There may be perfectly valid reasons why it could be parked there, particularly if it is a long way from the operating centre. If the operating centre is close by, then there is less justification in parking it away from base.
    If you lend someone a tenner and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
  • puppy999
    puppy999 Posts: 216 Forumite
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    I use to have a 7.5 horsebox had living in slept 4 and carried 3 horses ....... the road at the front of my house is wide with no house's in front only open fields I dont get on the the Dingles that live nxt door my box was parked outside as we were going away showing and needed to pack and get it ready
    at 1am we were woken by the police sayin that the Dingles nxt door had conplained and would we move it .... I said are you joking you hav got us out of bed at 1 in the morning to move my box which as every right to be parked there...... he said that if we didnt move it they would give us a parking fine ..... I shut the door in his face and said go a head .............. I got a parking fine (this was 5yrs ago) I also got another the nite after....no I didnt pay them but I ended up with a long court battle which went on 2yrs .................the horsebox was not obstructing 2 cars could drive passed at the same time and there is no weight limite it had its parking lights on its a well lit road........ if it had not been for my friends hubby (tracffic policeman) I would have had to pay.... well weather they wud hav got it is debetable ....lol
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