Woodburning stove

suki1964

Swipe wrote: »

The reason being, in theory, every time it is re-connected it needs signing off again. Just don't mention it to your insurance company. If you did have a chimney fire though you'd still need the receipt/certificate as proof that it had been swept by a professional sweep otherwise there's a risk the insurance might not pay out in the event of any damage / house burning down.

Perhaps the rules here are different as we have never been given a certificate when we get the chimney stack swept

So if what you are saying is true - where are the official guidelines? Who says how many times a year a chimney has to be swept?

Whos to say if in the unfortunate event we had a chimney fire that the sweep had been 350 days previously and was due in the next few days??? Will the insurers then refuse to pay out???

Sounds like a load of baloney if you ask me ( not that Im saying you are telling porkies, just if them the rules they make no sense and I still cant find anywhere that says its illegal)

Ken68

I agree Suki...loads of baloney, and lots of F.U.D. from some of the posters.
Perhaps, If, But ,Maybe.
Post 12 takes the biscuit. Stretching things there crphillips.

Doug_bea

suki1964 wrote: »

Well if you dont tell - I wont either. ok???

Just a thought - where is this law?? I cant find it anywhere

And what is the penalty??

I mean its our roof, our land, our chimney

Had to climb out there to fit the thing, cant see where as its illegal to do that - so how can it be illegal to dismantle it????

Becuase it should have been installed with proper sweep access in the first place! and just becuase it's your land/roof/chimney building regulations can still force compliance by making you have the work done legally. Although very rare to quote “We only really resort to the ‘policing’ part of our role when we are dealing with a serial avoider, dangerous rouge traders or complete incompetence.”

crphillips

Suki.........it does depend where you are on what regs apply. I think in scotland you can pretty much do anything with a chimney but I'm not sure where your located. In the UK the installer is supposed to ensure the installation is sweepable without removal of the appliance or flue system. It's not a bad idea as you don't really want to be pulling the installation apart every 6 months and it s a bit of a pain to do so.

I suppose if you sweep it yourself then at least it's getting done. Most sweeps won't pull and install apart to sweep it though.


Ken68:- not really........you call some chimney sweeps now and try to get your flue swept before Christmas. Sweeps are in high demand so charge accordingly.

suki1964

Doug_bea wrote: »

Becuase it should have been installed with proper sweep access in the first place! and just becuase it's your land/roof/chimney building regulations can still force compliance by making you have the work done legally. Although very rare to quote “We only really resort to the ‘policing’ part of our role when we are dealing with a serial avoider, dangerous rouge traders or complete incompetence.”

It is installed with proper sweep access. We have a free standing stove with a double walled chimney. Same as we can sweep it ourselves - open the stove door - remove all the innards and sweep

So once again - where is this law that we are breaking for climbing on our own roof to take down a chimney ???

And where are these insurance rules saying I have to have a certificate of cleaning by a sweep??

I work in a bar which has an open fire, I know for fact that the chimney has not be swept in four years. I also know we have a fire certificate and public liability insurance - which if we were breaking any laws or rules we wouldnt have

suki1964

crphillips wrote: »

Suki.........it does depend where you are on what regs apply. I think in scotland you can pretty much do anything with a chimney but I'm not sure where your located. In the UK the installer is supposed to ensure the installation is sweepable without removal of the appliance or flue system. It's not a bad idea as you don't really want to be pulling the installation apart every 6 months and it s a bit of a pain to do so.

I suppose if you sweep it yourself then at least it's getting done. Most sweeps won't pull and install apart to sweep it though.


Ken68:- not really........you call some chimney sweeps now and try to get your flue swept before Christmas. Sweeps are in high demand so charge accordingly.

Our chimney has been installed correctly
It can be swept from the inside of out house no problem

You told me Im breaking the law. Im asking you what law???

And I hate to tell you but last I looked, Scotland is part of the UK

crphillips

Nit picking a little. England then.

Why sweep from outside if it can be swept from the inside no problem?

beanrua

England is NOT the UK, it is IN the UK. That's not nit picking, that's just the way it is.

Doug_bea

suki1964 wrote: »

It is installed with proper sweep access. We have a free standing stove with a double walled chimney. Same as we can sweep it ourselves - open the stove door - remove all the innards and sweep

So once again - where is this law that we are breaking for climbing on our own roof to take down a chimney ???

And where are these insurance rules saying I have to have a certificate of cleaning by a sweep??

I work in a bar which has an open fire, I know for fact that the chimney has not be swept in four years. I also know we have a fire certificate and public liability insurance - which if we were breaking any laws or rules we wouldnt have

you can sweep it yourself thats fine, although its advisable to check with your insurance on the safe side you know what there like for dodging a payment!!! but to take it apart and re-install it then you have to be HETAS registerd or have building controll re-inspect and certificate. If you just want to take it down then i'm sure thats fine! just the putting back up bit haha

suki1964

crphillips wrote: »

Nit picking a little. England then.

Why sweep from outside if it can be swept from the inside no problem?

Why not??

He was up there putting up another half metre of chimney cos we weren't getting a draw so whilst out there he cleaned the lot

Still want to know what laws we broke ?

And if you are only sure of the rules and regulations in England, perhaps you need a wee disclaimer - not all of us on this forum are in England