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  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    The only reason I have become angry is because some on here are making allegations about me being mentally unstable, likely to OD on a mixture of alcohol & Morphine, have an alias that has dropped dead and drive a car whilst intoxicated.
    One poster actually told me to commit suicide!
    If you were subject to this form of abuse, I am sure you would react much the same.

    This forum is not here to voice such personal insults without some form of retribution being applied.


    I hope you reported them to the team, and if you wish the police, as inciting suicide is a crime is it not?
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    sh1305 wrote: »
    I've contacted my MP about the reforms. Has anyone else done this?


    you are likely to get a standard propaganda reply.

    If you do, write back, and point out that early day motion i mentioned earlier in the thread, and point out that it seems hypocritcal for your MP to support using ATOS, when even MPS say they are inhumane.

    Feel free to point out harringtons report, the reports from mind, macmillan, CAB, tribunal service etc all pointing out problems with ATOS.

    Make him or her work for their money, question every point in detail.
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • Indie_Kid
    Indie_Kid Posts: 23,097 Forumite
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    cit_k wrote: »
    Im curious, why did you need cycling gloves, if the above is the case, is it not dangerous for you to be cycling?

    I dont know much about your condition, so apologies if the question seems odd, but road safety is important, and Im just curious to know if you actally are cycling with bad balance, and no depth perception? That sounds like a recipe for an accident waiting to happen?

    Because I use a mobility cane to get one. One of the problems I have is that if I don't wear my gloves, my hands get sore after a few minutes.
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  • pipkin71
    pipkin71 Posts: 21,821 Forumite
    edited 22 December 2010 at 5:53PM
    cit_k wrote: »
    I hope you reported them to the team, and if you wish the police, as inciting suicide is a crime is it not?

    A poster told me to commit suicide too, to save the taxpayers some money :(

    I don't think they were actually inciting me to do it, more of a trying to say something nasty, sort of thing.

    It happened a couple of years back, and the poster is still on here. That sort of thing shows that person up for what they are though, tbh.
    There is something delicious about writing the first words of a story. You never quite know where they'll take you - Beatrix Potter
  • pipkin71 wrote: »
    A poster told me to commit suicide too, to save the taxpayers some money :(

    I don't think they were actually inciting me to do it, more of a trying to say something nasty, sort of thing.

    It happened a couple of years back, and the poster is still on here. That sort of thing shows that person up for what they are though, tbh.

    I can't understand why someone would feel the need to say something like this.
    Infact I just don't understand the nastiness full stop,that people on these boards throw at the sick and disabled.
    I'm neither sick nor disabled so have no personal interest but I do volunteer both in a hospice and a day care centre and know a lot of genuine people who because of sickness or disabiity have suffered personal episodes of prejudice.Some of the people I deal with are terminally ill,but because they don't look it have had nasty remarks thrown at them on occasions.
    One thing I've learned is that sometimes the most disabled people probably look normal.
    The government has a lot to answer for since they've made a pretty good job of making the media churn out propaganda against people like this.
    What gets me is that how come a disease or disability that has been classed as serious for decades suddenly is'nt.Medical science has'nt made that many breakthroughs and illness affects each person differently,with medication often causing a whole new set of problems.
    Yes there are malingerers,I have no doubt of this but sick people are still sick no matter how much money the government want to save or how much hate they print.
    Merry Christmas to all.
  • Indie_Kid
    Indie_Kid Posts: 23,097 Forumite
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    One thing I've learned is that sometimes the most disabled people probably look normal.

    Yes. The majority of disabled do look fine. I do. Until my body decides to go into spasm. Thankfully, it's not that often now.
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  • I really hope the changes to DLA aren't as bad as they are being made out, but if its anything like the new ESA rules and medical I can understand why people are fearful

    I understand that there needs to be regular assesments of peoples health, but it needs to be done in a fair way

    I have suspected ME (I say suspected as they still need to rule out other things as there is no particular test for ME) and am unable to work.

    Even though I am unable to work in any type of job at the moment (at my best I could do a desk job, but had to give that up in the summer), I would just be placed in the work related activity group, which come 2012, only lasts for 12 months, even if you are still just as ill at the end of it (contributions based-which i would be as my husband works)

    I would be more than happy to have medicals 6 monthly if they were fair and it meant that for as long as I was too ill to work, I could claim ESA. I want to work again, I hate not working, but when I am too ill to, what other choice do I have?
  • I am really worried about the changes. (Part of my condition predisposes me to worrying!)

    I see my GP and a specialist - neither of them think I am fit to even look for work.

    I have never had a medical and never had a renewal form to complete for either DLA or IB. I was (eventually) given an indefinite award for my DLA, for my IB I apploed and was awarded it and it has been paid constantly without any review. (I am Autistic)

    I would be willing to submit to a medical every month - providing the medical was carried out by a qualified doctor with an understanding of Autism.
  • hrafndot
    hrafndot Posts: 2,155 Forumite
    cit_k wrote: »
    No they are not saying they do not know, they are saying the time taken to pull out and categories/sort the data would cost more than the FOI act deems reasonable.

    Stats are published for benefit fraud per type of benefit, any more detailed breakdown requires staff time, and that costs money.

    Yes, was trying to say that. When in the civil service, the annual report had to publish everything in the interests of transparency. Even exec salaries had to be shown, excluding bonus as this would be subject to privacy laws.

    Stats for those who claim but fail to follow through after medical would be useful, there will be those who have legitimate claims who are intimdated by the process of appeal. I think CAB would make a case for this as well. It would tidy up the stats a lot.
  • hrafndot
    hrafndot Posts: 2,155 Forumite
    cit_k wrote: »
    Im curious, why did you need cycling gloves, if the above is the case, is it not dangerous for you to be cycling?

    I dont know much about your condition, so apologies if the question seems odd, but road safety is important, and Im just curious to know if you actally are cycling with bad balance, and no depth perception? That sounds like a recipe for an accident waiting to happen?

    Cycling gloves with padded palms are actually brilliant if you walk with a stick. The stick can at times cause hand pain, when person may be getting hand pain through spasm anyway.

    Also, with poor balance, the gloves leave fingertips free but take freezing touch out of the steel rails that are often fitted without covering and are painful to touch.
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