Employment Law - unpaid overtime

Sambucus_Nigra

Actually, a high turnover of staff is an indication of bad management rather than the other way round.

I think your husband and the staff need to look at the overall situation here and take into consideration whether the bonus makes it all worthwhile or whether they would get a better or indeed, worse deal elsewhere.

NikNox

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Actually, a high turnover of staff is an indication of bad management rather than the other way round.

I think your husband and the staff need to look at the overall situation here and take into consideration whether the bonus makes it all worthwhile or whether they would get a better or indeed, worse deal elsewhere.

There isn't a high turnover of staff.

Gordon_Hose

NikNox wrote: »

There isn't a high turnover of staff.

A low staff turnover would be indicative of good management, surely?

NikNox

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

A low staff turnover would be indicative of good management, surely?

Well you would think so wouldn't you, but their boss isn't particularly popular, especially lately. He should be grateful that he has good staff and should treat them accordingly. No-one likes being taken for granted!

Sambucus_Nigra

NikNox wrote: »

There isn't a high turnover of staff.

Aye - I can read.

A LOW turnover of staff is an indication of GOOD management, so he must be doing something right.

Gordon_Hose

Depends if they feel taken for granted, I guess. Everyone has different tolerance levels.

Savvy_Sue

I'd suggest a joint grievance and joint working to rule. the boss must love the divide and rule culture.

also I'd recommend joining a union, and persuading as many others as possible to do so. boss doesn't have to like or allow this, it's their right.

FATBALLZ

8-9PM every night with no breaks for £23k ish? What a joke, I'd be out of there like a shot.

eamon

It can be very difficult working for the owner of a company. Especially when there is a culture of staying behind because the boss does. The amount of unpaid overtime that you have stated is unreasonable. Nobody begrudges the odd hour but 3+ hours every day is crazy.
Legally the working time directive applies as your OH has no say or control over his workload whereas the boss can easily decide that every Wednesday morning he plays golf and justifies this to himself by staying at work until 8pm.
You say that OH work is in the Oil industry. This is a 24hr business. Would it be better for your OH to devise a plan that makes his office more efficient & effective. Do all the people need to be there at 8am? Make the day longer by staggering start & finish times. Is the phone & fax red hot in the morning, afternon or evening? What are the peaks? What service level is promised to the customers? Are these compromised? Is lots of time spent "firefighing"? You (or did you) mentioned that the warehouse/factory has attendance issues. Nothing !!!!es of warehouse/factory people quicker than crazy requests coming from sales.
Get reasonable answers/solutions to all those questions and you OH boss will take him seriously.

However if your OH has another job lined up or has a sizeable lottery win then ignore all of the above.

Eamon

lucylucky

You can never get time back.

If it is affecting the quality of his, and your life, then he needs to decide/discuss with the boss what is "reasonable" overtime and stick to that.

As for breaks unless he has signed an opt-out then he is legally entitled to a break of at least 20 minutes should his working day exceed 6 hours. He needs to make sure he gets at least that.