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Does anybody else allow their neighbours to use their wifi?

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  • kwikbreaks
    kwikbreaks Posts: 9,187 Forumite
    roddydogs wrote: »
    Never let you neighbour use your wifey.
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • Col7777
    Col7777 Posts: 194 Forumite
    roddydogs wrote: »
    Never let you neighbour use your wifey.

    Class, I love it. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • hi.
    there was a copyright case a couple of years ago where a woman had an open network and people living near used it to download illegal stuff.as it was here network its her responsibility to secure it apparently and she ended up in court.i wouldn't let anyone use my network unless they were in my house.if your going to go ahead with it get all your pc security checked as well so they can't hack it, and theirs so people cant access your router through their pc and aquire the router settings.
  • gonzo127
    gonzo127 Posts: 4,482 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    the issues i can see

    1/ dont know if others will download anything dodgy, this may or may not cause serious friction between neighbours (the pointing fingers situation) especially since these letter writing campaines still go on ACS-Law as the best example,

    2/ will not be able to share files on your network - any files you put up to share will be able to be access by anyone, so will not be able to transfer music, work documents, important letters, etc between your own computers over the network

    3/ general slow down - you only have so much bandwidth, since you currently say you might have 4 people online sharing the connection what happens with that goes to 8 people you will get half the speed you have now so downloading anything could become slow if not impossible - iplayer streaming requires a ideally 2mb throughput - now if you have a upto 8mb connection and get the top speed (very doubtful as so few can) sharing between 4 should give you enough speed, however sharing between 8 could cause issues

    4/ download limit - really very few companies have a truely unlimited service as most run a fair usage policy in which if you go over this you will generally have you speed cut to less than 1mb (now imagine sharing that between 8 people) - the more people you have on your connection the more likely you would be to hit this limit

    5/ virus's - even if you do not share your files on the network, your neighbours might do, and just imagine if one of your kids spoted a interestingly named file on your neighbours system, say i dont know p0rn.exe they think oh lets look at this, double click and bam you have now got a virus on your system/s
    Drop a brand challenge
    on a £100 shop you might on average get 70 items save
    10p per product = £7 a week ~ £28 a month
    20p per product = £14 a week ~ £56 a month
    30p per product = £21 a week ~ £84 a month (or in other words one weeks shoping at the new price)
  • Jacks_xxx
    Jacks_xxx Posts: 3,874 Forumite
    kwikbreaks wrote: »
    In that case I suggest you run your idea past them. If they say yes go ahead then they clearly cannot be as "techie" as you think they are.

    I know that they are going to raise objections, this thread is my way of finding out in advance what objections they are likely to raise. :D
    Col7777 wrote: »
    I made a post on this earlier, I would share my connection with a neighbour if they payed half the bill, but I would only share it if I trusted that neighbour and I knew they would play the game as I would with them.
    I wouldn't just go knocking on doors and saying to neighbours here is my password help yourself.

    Me neither. :eek:
    Col7777 wrote: »
    There are downsides to sharing as already mentioned, like kids getting access and passing on passwords etc, but like I said I would only do it with a trusted neighbour.

    Me too, plus our WiFi only covers a very small area so it has natural limitations.
    Col7777 wrote: »
    There is another thing I thought of, IF and I stress IF this became widespread and neighbours started sharing to save money it wouldn't be long before Internet providers started putting some kind of restrictions in place to stop it.

    I wondered about that, but how will they know?

    Col7777 wrote: »
    There are a few IP's that offer free broardband for community groups so what is classed as a community group?

    Interesting.. thank you. :)
    Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. Einstein
  • Jacks_xxx
    Jacks_xxx Posts: 3,874 Forumite
    kwikbreaks wrote: »
    It looks like that particular genie is already out of the bottle in the case of the OP...

    Lunacy IMO but perhaps I'm just a cynical, grumpy old git. That is to say even more of a cynical grumpy old git than I already know I am :)

    What amazes me is the general level of paranoia generally shown here about having the best AV together with firewalls and "internet security" suites yet several posters seem quite happy to allow others onto their home network.


    Lunacy why? Thanks for posting. :)
    Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. Einstein
  • Jacks_xxx
    Jacks_xxx Posts: 3,874 Forumite
    macman wrote: »
    Surely it is a standard ISP term that a broadband connection cannot be shared between separate properties-only between different users in the same property?
    Of course in practice this is unenforceable, but it's still going to be in the contract. Just in the same way that domestic contracts don't allow business usage.

    That's what I was wondering. I know a few neighbours in adjoining flats who share and just put both names on the bill, but I don't know if that would cover them or not?

    Is the separate property the defining characteristic that makes it wrong.

    And how could they tell?
    Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. Einstein
  • Jacks_xxx
    Jacks_xxx Posts: 3,874 Forumite
    foodster wrote: »
    hi.
    there was a copyright case a couple of years ago where a woman had an open network and people living near used it to download illegal stuff.as it was here network its her responsibility to secure it apparently and she ended up in court.i wouldn't let anyone use my network unless they were in my house.if your going to go ahead with it get all your pc security checked as well so they can't hack it, and theirs so people cant access your router through their pc and aquire the router settings.

    Thanks for posting. :) Was that in the UK?
    Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. Einstein
  • Jacks_xxx
    Jacks_xxx Posts: 3,874 Forumite
    gonzo127 wrote: »
    the issues i can see

    1/ dont know if others will download anything dodgy, this may or may not cause serious friction between neighbours (the pointing fingers situation) especially since these letter writing campaines still go on ACS-Law as the best example,

    2/ will not be able to share files on your network - any files you put up to share will be able to be access by anyone, so will not be able to transfer music, work documents, important letters, etc between your own computers over the network

    3/ general slow down - you only have so much bandwidth, since you currently say you might have 4 people online sharing the connection what happens with that goes to 8 people you will get half the speed you have now so downloading anything could become slow if not impossible - iplayer streaming requires a ideally 2mb throughput - now if you have a upto 8mb connection and get the top speed (very doubtful as so few can) sharing between 4 should give you enough speed, however sharing between 8 could cause issues

    4/ download limit - really very few companies have a truely unlimited service as most run a fair usage policy in which if you go over this you will generally have you speed cut to less than 1mb (now imagine sharing that between 8 people) - the more people you have on your connection the more likely you would be to hit this limit

    5/ virus's - even if you do not share your files on the network, your neighbours might do, and just imagine if one of your kids spoted a interestingly named file on your neighbours system, say i dont know p0rn.exe they think oh lets look at this, double click and bam you have now got a virus on your system/s

    :T:) Hmm... Ok. I'm processing that little lot. Thanks for posting. I really appreciate it. :)
    Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. Einstein
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Jacks_xxx wrote: »
    That's what I was wondering. I know a few neighbours in adjoining flats who share and just put both names on the bill, but I don't know if that would cover them or not?

    Is the separate property the defining characteristic that makes it wrong.

    And how could they tell?

    Adjoining flats are still 'separate properties' in every other sense of the word, certainly legally and fiscally. A row of terraces are all 'adjoining', but are you suggesting that they are one property from the point of view of a telcom contract?
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
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