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Which One Would You Choose - Peug3ot Or Renault
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Here we go again, all the 'experts' giving their golden personal opinions.....
The OP has asked about 2 x specific vehicles therefore rather than lambasting them, stick to the point.
Regarding the vehicles in question the Diesel will give much greater MPG, (as another HELPFUL poster put it check if its the 86/105 bhp, I believe that the 105 may have an extra gear?).
I had the 86 BHP Scenic and had only minor issues that were either sorted under warranty by a good local Renault dealership in Grantham or by a local mechanic (also check with Renault about any opportunity to extend the warranty). It will have good MPG, be very flexible, cavernous boot etc etc.
If buying the petrol be aware that they are quite thirsty and therefore price should reflect that.
Hope that helps? (rather than adenoid snorting).
Alex'Just because its on the internet don't believe it 100%'. Abraham Lincoln.
I have opinions, you have opinions. All of our opinions are valid whether they are based on fact or feeling. Respect other peoples opinions, stop forcing your opinions on other people and the world will be a happier place.0 -
WOW what a stupid comment.....'Just because its on the internet don't believe it 100%'. Abraham Lincoln.
I have opinions, you have opinions. All of our opinions are valid whether they are based on fact or feeling. Respect other peoples opinions, stop forcing your opinions on other people and the world will be a happier place.0 -
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To those who keep on saying French made cars are no good, fall to bits etc. Do you know which cars are made in France? For example the Toyota Yaris is made in the Citroen factory. Old French cars, like UK ones were badly made but later ones have good reliability from my experience, 2 Scenics and a Smart Fortwo.0
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I has the same problem awhile back 307 v scenic, in the end I went for scenic for the high riding position even though I prefer the look of the 307.0
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knightstyle wrote: »To those who keep on saying French made cars are no good, fall to bits etc. Do you know which cars are made in France? For example the Toyota Yaris is made in the Citroen factory. Old French cars, like UK ones were badly made but later ones have good reliability from my experience, 2 Scenics and a Smart Fortwo.
. . . . and yet the Toyota Yaris comes 7th in the JD Power Survey 2010 and the Citroen C2 comes 63rd, the Citroen C3 comes 83rd and the Citroen C1 comes 90th. Are you suggesting they purposefully make their cars unreliable, as they obviously have the capability to make a good car? :rotfl:
For point of reference the Renault Scenic came 68th and the Peugoet 307 came 91st. This is out of the 104 cars tested.
The JD Power Survey : "It's one thing to take a couple of cars for a spin around the block to see if you really like them, but wouldn't you like to know how your next car is going to stand the test of time?
That's where the 300 million-mile test drive that is the What Car?/JD Power Vehicle Ownership Satisfaction Survey comes in, because we delve into the experiences of more than 17,200 motorists who have travelled an average of 17,386 miles in their cars. "
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It borders on racist around here. People around the world held prejudice views of British cars based on their reliability in the 70s and 80s. The result? Rover is dead, TVR is dead, MG is worse than dead, Jaguar and Land Rover are Indian, Aston Martin are owned by a dirty money-grabbing consortium and our motor industry is rendered a fading memory.
The French are one of our closest neighbours, and I support their motor industry because I actually feel some sort of connection to it. I would never advise someone to buy a Pug 206 as they were genuinely terrible, but the Citroen C5, C6 and DS2 are all exemplary motors. The new Laguna Coupe is beautiful to behold and has build not far off a BMW, and the new Peugeot RCZ is lovelier than all the 'pacific rim' cars put together (though the Hyundai Coupe V6 was pretty nice).
I owned a Renault Megane Coupe for a few years and had no problems with it aside from wear and tear (and I'm talking tyres and brake pads here). It was zippy, efficient, very well equipped, reasonably good looking and CHEAP. It was a great car but I guess none of you would know that because you all drive around in your yawn-o-boxes feeling an unsubstantiated sense of smugness in your Fords. Well I actually own a Ford now, and it has far more quirks (read faults) than the Renault ever had.
Back OT, the 307 isn't a great car (better off with a late model 306 - best in its class back in the day), the Scenic is underpowered and GOLD (i.e. unsellable), the Megane estate is rare, and that generation of Megane doesn't have such a good reputation, but it's an interesting choice and with a revvy VVC engine I'd go for it...at the right price. But you aren't me, you are you, so that's not a lot of help really...
Unless it's the late model Megane III, in which case I'd say yes, yes, yes with bells on!0 -
Stuff . .
So basically you're agreeing that all the cars on the list are rubbish. :beer:
Perhaps you could point out the French Manufacturers in the JD Power survey who score above the industry average, Renault and Peugoet don't seem to fair too well :
ps. those other car companies went to the wall for a variety of different reasons, not because people made derogetory comments on an internet forum.
If you're seriously suggesting that TVR's were not unrelaible cars, then you've obviously not owned one very long. (from an owner of a Chimaera for 5 years)0 -
So basically you're agreeing that all the cars on the list are rubbish. :beer:
Perhaps you could point out the French Manufacturers in the JD Power survey who score above the industry average, Renault and Peugoet don't seem to fair too well :
ps. those other car companies went to the wall for a variety of different reasons, not because people made derogetory comments on an internet forum.
If you're seriously suggesting that TVR's were not unrelaible cars, then you've obviously not owned one very long. (from an owner of a Chimaera for 5 years)
Of course TVRs are unreliable, that's not the point. Find me a rival for the lovely Chimaera that doesn't break down with almost as much gusto as it accelerates.
As for the JD power survey, it is a fair indicator of ownership experience, which of course includes such things as how good the coffee is at the local dealership... And if we are taking that survey as undisputable fact, Renault fairs better than Vauxhall, and Citroen betters Ford and SEAT equalling Kia who have to offer a 7 year warranty to do so.
As for my recommendations, Peugeot went through a rough patch a few years ago but are recovering now. The 307 does unfortunately fall right into the worst period, though. And the Scenic is a good car, but a tiny diesel engine and terrible colour are a big mistake if you ask me.
What bothers me is that people are blanket saying ‘don’t ever buy French, buy a Vauxhall’. They’re not being objective or subjective with regard to the shortlisted cars; they are bigoted and tar all French cars with the same brush. These are probably the sort of people who bought the BMW X3 thinking it must be great as it’s a BMW only to find it’s a bit rubbish.0
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