Nice people thread part 3- Nice as pie

PasturesNew

I have a friend who takes X rays at a hospital. At her hospital the shifts she does means they provide 24 hour cover - yet many's the time when she's moaning about going into work because she's bored. Quite often she's just sitting around - and she's even got a room to sleep in if there's nothing going on. For these shifts she's paid her normal rate plus a half PLUS she gets the time off in lieu. A couple of years back she wanted to go on another holiday, she likes her holidays, and arranged for 3 months' unpaid leave as she calculated she'd already earnt about £40k in the previous 9 months. So, she's paid £40k and a lot of the time isn't even doing anything, and is often sitting on the internet chatting to me, or sleeping.

lemonjelly

Malcolm. wrote: »

We all hope the nhs will be there when we need it.

All too often this isn't the case.

I'm pleased some people's experience of the inefficient and poor quality (by european standards) nhs has been good.

In my case, inadequate staffing levels combined with medical mistakes led to the death of my child.

I don't see the nhs's care as rosy. Nor do many who work as part of it.

Hospitals are not safe places. Money is not spent well. The bureacrats making financial decisions are too far removed from the care aspect.

It's been a couple of years, I still haven't a clue how to cope with the death of my innocent child. There needs to be a heaven. A god needs to exist. I need something to hold to account for injustice.

Nowhere near the same, but the emotion I experienced when I lost a relative is similar to yours Malcolm. I feel for you.

My experience doesn't compare to losing a child, however I still lost someone extremely close to me, someone I loved. & whilst I could see I was losing them, all I could see was inefficiency, and a lack of responsibility.

And I genuinely believe that we, as a family were lied to. Especially by GP's.

(As an aside, I lost it with a GP who came round my nans to have a go at the cost he incurred when a family member insisted onan emergency call out for my grandad who hadn't at the time been diagnosed as terminally ill. The GP had repeatedly refused to come out. I though fu ck you mate & got an emergency doctor out. His surgery was billed, & he came round to shout at an old lady who's husband was dying in front of her about the cost.
I am glad I was there to tell the lying son of a beach what a liability he was. He didn't refuse to come out again.
That said, I still wish he wasn't practising, & personally wish he was living in the gutter, as I still feel he is no better than scum)

rant over...

SingleSue

We are back and I am not happy.

The GP we saw was obviously new, she hadn't read his notes and although she tried to cover up for not reading through, she let the cat out of the bag when she asked "How many times does he take the brown puffer?" - He hasn't used a brown puffer for at least 3 years.

She did bring in our family doctor, the same doctor I vowed never to see after last year and middle son, where he said it wasn't serious and a few hours later, middle son was admitted and in hospital for a week with a very serious and life threatening infection.

It is so confusing, told one thing by the asthma nurse, the respiratory nurse, the consultant (I.E. for youngest, the panic time is not when he is at 50% of normal but at 70% of normal) and yet, the doctor from hell saying he is not going to do anything until he is below 50% of normal. Youngest is already on high dose steroids as he has had flucitasone added in for over 3 weeks now, on top of his regular inhalers...without them, he would probably be well below 50%, but even with the added steroids, the peak flows are still going down, down, down.

Youngest is still in zone 3/4...if he isn't out of it by the end of the afternoon, I will just take him up to the PAU.

lemonjelly

I posted a short time ago about how I suspected local charities/organisations could/would be at risk with the forthcoming cuts.

In my view, Birmingham council (who offer an appalling service, in every sense - housing - their homelessness service is now based in police stations!:eek:, their child protection has been described as sub standard by government inspectors for years, and so on...) have taken the easy way out. Their option for dealing with the cuts is a cessation of funding to a number of voluntary organisations who do valuable community service. As I understand it, currently there are at least 14 organisations which will go out of business on 31 march.

One of those, is Birmingham CAB. With a population of over 1 million, & a useless council, they provide essential advise services on diverse issues, including debt, benefits, employment, consumer lae, relationship breakdown, health & much more.

Birmingham council have shamefully decided to pull 100% of the funding they provide.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-Birmingham-CABs-free-independent-impartial-legal-advice/150270275026678

fu cking shocking behaviour.

Please folks, have a look, "like" it, share it with people.

lostinrates

lemonjelly wrote: »

And I genuinely believe that we, as a family were lied to. Especially by GP's..

This.

Its a huge part of my phobia, or hatred, or whatever it is of GPs. I'm sure as people they are ok.

I understand in ancient china you paid your doctor monthly and he provided holistic care. If you ate what he said, and followed his advise and got ill.....his wage was removed/docked.



I can't work out a possible system now though. Doctors can't be personally responsible for thousands of people under their care, and professional responsibility has remits. My tears for Malcom and his family are useless....but what is the answer? Frustration isn't, a strangers tears aren't. I can pay more for myself, but only while we don't pay more tax for others.

Incidentally, DH has decided, on the advice of that same NHS consultant not to wait but to seek private care this week.

michaels

Sadly, closing the CAB will probably offer a double saving (in the short run) - not only the direct saving but also but reducing the information people receive on their entitlements, claims on the council will also fall.

How is that for cynical!

I wonder if there is scope for a 'big society' solution where charities like the CAB take a cut of any extra state funding they can secure for their customers, hardly ethical I know but may be we need to find new models?

lemonjelly wrote: »

I posted a short time ago about how I suspected local charities/organisations could/would be at risk with the forthcoming cuts.

In my view, Birmingham council (who offer an appalling service, in every sense - housing - their homelessness service is now based in police stations!:eek:, their child protection has been described as sub standard by government inspectors for years, and so on...) have taken the easy way out. Their option for dealing with the cuts is a cessation of funding to a number of voluntary organisations who do valuable community service. As I understand it, currently there are at least 14 organisations which will go out of business on 31 march.

One of those, is Birmingham CAB. With a population of over 1 million, & a useless council, they provide essential advise services on diverse issues, including debt, benefits, employment, consumer lae, relationship breakdown, health & much more.

Birmingham council have shamefully decided to pull 100% of the funding they provide.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-Birmingham-CABs-free-independent-impartial-legal-advice/150270275026678

fu cking shocking behaviour.

Please folks, have a look, "like" it, share it with people.

lostinrates

michaels wrote: »

I wonder if there is scope for a 'big society' solution where charities like the CAB take a cut of any extra state funding they can secure for their customers, hardly ethical I know but may be we need to find new models?

TBF there already is a ''big society'' element to CAB...with law students being strongly encouraged to volunteer..

lemonjelly

michaels wrote: »

Sadly, closing the CAB will probably offer a double saving (in the short run) - not only the direct saving but also but reducing the information people receive on their entitlements, claims on the council will also fall.

How is that for cynical!

I wonder if there is scope for a 'big society' solution where charities like the CAB take a cut of any extra state funding they can secure for their customers, hardly ethical I know but may be we need to find new models?

Cynical, but true michaels!

Although conversely, I would say that CAB staff do straighten out issues, where the client feels they have rights which have been trodden on by the council, yet the council have acted entirely appropriately. This preventative action can equally be cost saving.

Conversely again, a big thing CABx do, is ease debt problems, such as rental payments, council tax and the like. No doubt the cheif exec of Bham Cab is already looking into exactly the value in £ that they pull in to the council (i'll bet it is way more than the £600k they've had cut)

Such decisions appear (to me at least) to be contrary to any big society ideals.

lostinrates wrote: »

TBF there already is a ''big society'' element to CAB...with law students being strongly encouraged to volunteer..

Very true lir, another unpaid social contribution they make.

abaxas

No reason to post.

JonnyBravo

abaxas wrote: »

No reason to post.

You are Andy Gray and I claim my £5.