Nice people thread part 3- Nice as pie

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

Mine was a Y we currently drive a G.Its old and it bangs,but its pretty reliable!

Grrrr.Turns out we need a new join for our burst joint here, and the part is not easy to find because its old black dairy piping to copper, not new blue water piping.

We've had to fill waterers by hand and open up and grit another bit of yard to provide water now.:(

This is the phase known as "realising why the last bloke flogged it"

vivatifosi

lostinrates wrote: »

Grrrr.Turns out we need a new join for our burst joint here, and the part is not easy to find because its old black dairy piping to copper, not new blue water piping.

If its copper rather than plastic, can it be patched rather than replaced?

GDB2222

LIR, I've not come across the term black dairy piping, so I suspect it's not really called that. Try BES, once you've worked out what to search for. http://www.bes.co.uk/


There's also a very good newsgroup uk.d-i-y that is full of knowledgeable helpful people.

lostinrates

GDB2222 wrote: »

LIR, I've not come across the term black dairy piping, so I suspect it's not really called that. Try BES, once you've worked out what to search for. http://www.bes.co.uk/


There's also a very good newsgroup uk.d-i-y that is full of knowledgeable helpful people.

Thanks will try them tomorrow.:)

Its the old black flexible pipe that...dairies used to use...I've only heard it referred to as ''black dairy piping'' or ''old black dairy piping''!


edit: vent. I was asked if there was anything I wanted and I said a Mail on Sunday...not for Liz but for the Nigella recipes....but its sold out in the small near by town where he looked. Bah Humbug. Are they excerpts from a new book,does anyone know? I might have that instead:)
Viva, its the joiny bit that joins the old black dairy piping to the copper,and its an awkward 22 mm (I think) size. as opposed to blue pipe 20 or 25 mm sizes.

vivatifosi

Ah with you.... How about an architectural salvage yard? You may find one open on a Sunday, which if nothing else can tell you the right name.

lostinrates

vivatifosi wrote: »

Ah with you.... How about an architectural salvage yard? You may find one open on a Sunday, which if nothing else can tell you the right name.

I'll try the neighbours tomorrow if no luck from Agri-spares or GDB's links. (they are very ''sunday'' so not going to ask them today, but are farmers and know my yard well)

I think we are due to refreeze this week? no rush then, because the system better stay drained down for a bit.:( Just ruddy hard work filling by hand!

Everything is seriously lagged for use in a rural winter, it was obviously just this joints time:( RIP silly plastic and cooper thing.

Could it be called a spigget? I think so:huh:

John_Pierpoint

PasturesNew wrote: »

No, but as an idea it sucks anyway. Most farmers have a farm/animals that still need tending. They have a full-time job to do on the farm.

Hi Pastures - how can I tell you live in TB reactor land ?

I'm talking about the East side of the country where the barley barons live - I expect they are looking over their rolling acres through the double glazed conservatory and counting their acreage payments at this time of year; strong in the knowledge that the layer of snow is protecting the prairies investment growing underneath it.

misskool wrote: »

errr...having never bought a car in my life, what's the 50? 05? Y? is that how old they are?

i'll have a mooch round autotrader

err...what sort of engine size? petrol? diesel? what is not a lot of mileage?

Over here second hand salesmen - fresh meat.
Seriously though at this time of year a diesel just keeps chugging along immune to the moisture and does more miles to the tank full.
Now that diesel cars are main-streem [main!!!!!! what is it with you net nanny] there is little difference between petrol and diesel in daily use; though the heater takes longer to warm up and remember to take your own disposable gloves for refuelling - the one day you need them the garage will have run out. [Technical note - by the time you get back in the car and realise you needed the gloves, you will have smeared the fluid onto your steering wheel - there is something about the butch smell of diesel that even I think detracts from the allure of the fair sex]

lostinrates wrote: »

Thanks will try them tomorrow.:)

Its the old black flexible pipe that...dairies used to use...I've only heard it referred to as ''black dairy piping'' or ''old black dairy piping''!



Viva, its the joiny bit that joins the old black dairy piping to the copper,and its an awkward 22 mm (I think) size. as opposed to blue pipe 20 or 25 mm sizes.

I extended my water supply to the out buildings using black 1/2 inch / 3/4 inch plastic piping and joining it together with compression brass fittings about 35 years ago. The secret is to get it to freeze back towards the mains - as it is the compressed water that bursts pipes rather than the ice itself.
How has the joint failed?
I would have expected the pressure to push the plastic pipe out of the compression fitting. In which case a stiffener (short length of metal pipe inside the plastic one) and screw it all up again should do the job?

[A couple of years ago we did leave a "Hozelok" plastic splitter screwed to the outside tap and the ice cracked that - the splitter being a gizmo that allows the water supply to be tapped off to two uses - say leaving the hose going while filling a bucket. Same idea as the nifty electrical adaptors with little red glowing switches to show which appliance is switched on.]

Finally yesterday's footie results:
Rats 0
John 1
(Some poor starving adolescent rat could not resist the pig fat)

GDB2222

I thought a spigot was just a fancy name for a tap?

misskool

John, rats and mice prefer savory things to sweet things and most I have found have a penchant for peanut butter. Also rotate traps, they are very intelligent animals.

LIR, good luck with that more things to worry about

I'm more confuzzled than ever about cars, anyone want to go on a trip with me to buy one? Needs to be cheap as chips, but last more than a year (think I may have to take the train for a bit to save up)

lostinrates

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

I extended my water supply to the out buildings using black 1/2 inch / 3/4 inch plastic piping and joining it together with compression brass fittings about 35 years ago. The secret is to get it to freeze back towards the mains - as it is the compressed water that bursts pipes rather than the ice itself.
How has the joint failed?
I would have expected the pressure to push the plastic pipe out of the compression fitting. In which case a stiffener (short length of metal pipe inside the plastic one) and screw it all up again should do the job?

[A couple of years ago we did leave a "Hozelok" plastic splitter screwed to the outside tap and the ice cracked that - the splitter being a gizmo that allows the water supply to be tapped off to two uses - say leaving the hose going while filling a bucket. Same idea as the nifty electrical adaptors with little red glowing switches to show which appliance is switched on.]

OK, the plastic/rubber pipe goes from the metre side towards the copper side. There was (and is) a brass stiffener.

Screwing it up is the problem. What was there doesn't seem to fit correctly and hold. Probably pipe imperial and joint metric?

My dad has been here with the DH and they have both been measuring and shaking heads. Dad reckons he can find something tomorrow. (he knows less than dh and I but known as little for longer ).

The metre is already iunderpressure because the leak/or spring is near there and the metre area is filling and freezing. The water from this doesn't ick our metre over and the water company swear its not theirs either. we're trying to find out if we can sink a well or otherwise divert this (e already collect own surface water here) to be less reliant on metre water