Propane Gas - Current prices??

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albyota wrote: »

get rid of oil and LPG boilers, I have a new ASHP boiler, from 7 Nov 08 to 25 Jan 09 my total electric bill is £343. thats for heating 4 bed house, heatin hot water, cooking everyday, 3 tellys, computer, fridge, freezer etc, and washing and drying clothes, 2 adults 3 teens, its great to Know i can just check my electric meter and count how many units i have used and multiply by 0.09p, I had used 3788, very cold winter but warm and toasty all over house. just estimated the annual cost about £890 thats for everything, can advise on running costs, get one

What hoops do you have to jump through to have an ASHP boiler installed? Does it supply all the water that an LPG boiler does - e.g. washing, radiators. I monitor my electricity use on a daily basis so that I can check on any particular day why it is higher or lower than normal. What is the cost of purchase and installation of these boilers and who supplies them. With the LPG monopoly being broken in the next couple of months there may be a considerable reduction in the outrageous prices being charged right now. I understand the wholesale price of LPG is only about 19 ppl so there is plenty of room for the wholesalers to trim their margins.

Hermann

You can get 'boiler replacement' ASHP that are self contained, sit outside and only require the feed and return plumbed onto them. They also require an electrical connection which would need to comply with Part P building regs (as does any electrical work).
It makes sense to consider whether any other improvements can be made to your existing system/house to make most efficient use of energy. Always insulate first as it'll give the best return.

Some people also use 'Thermal Stores' which they heat with ASHP during off peak hours of Economy 7. You need to understand your usage and do the sums to see if this works for you.

You can use existing radiators with ASHP but it works better with things like underfloor heating. A compromise can be made by using oversize radiators. It all depends on what you've already gor in place, your usage, and how much you can spend!

Not recommending this particular supplier or make or, model but the following link gives you some idea of whats available. the site has links to technical info etc.

http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog/Trianco_Activair_Air_Source_Heat_Pumps.html

Mitsubushi equipment is often highly spoken of the following links give info their 'Ecodan' heat pumps.

http://www.mitsubishi-aircon.co.uk/default.asp?url=http%3A//www.mitsubishi-aircon.co.uk/mitsubishi_electric.asp%3Fid%3D168227

http://www.ecovisionsystems.co.uk/products/mitsubishi-heat-pumps,80.htm?gclid=CPfAocjbvZgCFUsI3wodWjZqZw

There are some grants available, but some have found worth little in reality, worth checking out though.

albyota

cjbananas wrote: »

OK ... so how much was this ASHP ... I know a little about them ... is it using wet central heating ... and if so, did you have to modify the rads etc.

If it's expensive, then it's not much of an option ... if not then it may be a go-er'!

Ta!

cjbananas, I sold my WB greenstar oil boiler and tank only 2 yrs old £1200, remaing oil £200, plus the £700 I had saved to fill up for the winter. bought the ASHP for £2600 plus £250 to the Acredited heating engineer to fit the system, I run it with UFH 2 floors at 40 degrees, works fine, hot water heated to 55 degrees into 210 L tank and lifted 10 degrees to 65 by Imm Htr once a day, this is the 8.5 kW unit and would do radiators to 55 degrees, which if the house is well insulated, Double glazed, draft proofed etc i.e. low heat loss then its ideal, generally, radiators are often oversized anyway, but you should calculate heat loss, U values, watts/M"2/degress K, my OP for winter bill is genuine as I take meter readings and monitor regularly. by the way, even at minus 8 here was still churning out the heat.

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albyota wrote: »

get rid of oil and LPG boilers, I have a new ASHP boiler, from 7 Nov 08 to 25 Jan 09 my total electric bill is £343. thats for heating 4 bed house, heatin hot water, cooking everyday, 3 tellys, computer, fridge, freezer etc, and washing and drying clothes, 2 adults 3 teens, its great to Know i can just check my electric meter and count how many units i have used and multiply by 0.09p, I had used 3788, very cold winter but warm and toasty all over house. just estimated the annual cost about £890 thats for everything, can advise on running costs, get one

What is a ASHP boiler?

Hermann

Air Source Heat Pump.

You put one unit of electricity into them and get somewhere between 2 and 4 units worth of heat out of them.
They're not ideal for every situation but are fantastic for some.

meagan

lpg wrote: »

Try Extra Gas Manchester

Hi , do you mean Extra Fuel in Manchester, they are quoting 29p for propane which makes me wonder if they are ok.If you are with them what do you think . regards meagan

lpg_2

Yeah there the people to deal with the price you see is the price you pay. real nice people stright forward no bull s..t.