Stove advice; vertical rise of 600mm before a change in direction

hethmar

You also need a CO monitor fitted from 1 October. I would also mention that you need a register plate - and lining/insulation to avoid as much as possible a build up of resin within your flueway.

Jolaaled

crystaltips_68 wrote: »

Is the recommended 600mm rise before a change in direction of the flue really necessary?

I have been given a stove (lovely red enamelled thing, i was only going to use it occasionally) and was hoping to fit in on my hearth, free standing, with the flue going straight out the back, then about a metre into the old fire place, to a right angle, then up the chimney. Will my stove work if i do this? Or am i going to have to alter my entire fireplace??

Thanks!:beer:

I've found the guys on this forum to be really helpful with any stove queries:

http://www.thegreenlivingforum.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=21

enjoy your stove!

crphillips

Yeah Hethmar is right. 90 deg bends not allowed.

Simply because of British building regs. It's a good idea though as you can't get brush around a 90 deg bend and soot will collect on the horizontal runs.

The reason you see stoves in brochures with 90 deg bends is that a lot of them are from foreign countries where their building regs are different. They're not going to print a different brochure for every country.

crystaltips_68

Managed to grab a professional from a stove place as he visited a neighbour a few days ago. He said i dont need the flue to go up the chimney at all, as i have blocked off the fireplace with fire board, and the hole at the back of the stove goes through the board. I do need to put a flue straight at the back of the stove though, just to take the smoke near to the chimney. Plus i need a CO monitor (ordered), and i need to extend my hearth, which i will do in time. Sorted!!

crphillips

Hmm....clearly a guy who doesn't abide by the building regulations then.

Fireboard isn't allowed to be used as a closure plate......90 deg bends aren't allowed from the rear of an appliance and also how will your sweep get access to sweep the flue? Where will all the soot go that falls down the chimney and how will they get it out of there?

Find another installer....he's cowboy.

crystaltips_68

crphillips wrote: »

Hmm....clearly a guy who doesn't abide by the building regulations then.

Fireboard isn't allowed to be used as a closure plate......90 deg bends aren't allowed from the rear of an appliance and also how will your sweep get access to sweep the flue? Where will all the soot go that falls down the chimney and how will they get it out of there?

Find another installer....he's cowboy.

He said fireboard WAS allowed, as did another stove shop i went into said! Both reputible, very busy shops!:undecided??

I now have no bend, that was my idea, lol. Dont need it anyway.

As for sweeping the chimney, the stove isnt that heavy, even i can lift it, so i will remove the stove, remove the board to get access, then seal up again afterwards.

I will need to rectify the hearth though!

suki1964

You can lift your stove????

Flip - took three men to get mine in

crystaltips_68

suki1964 wrote: »

You can lift your stove????

Flip - took three men to get mine in

Yea, just about! Its better with 2 of us though! It's only a diddy one, 5kw at the most. Keeps my lounge toasty though

crphillips

Fire board is most definately not allowed. It's in the building regs. Can only be used when the flue is lined. Otherwise it has to be a corrosion resistant metal.

Also your not allowed to remove a stove to sweep it. Building regs state that the flue has to be sweepable with the stove in place. The fitter even has to tick a box on the certificate to say this has been adhered to. Also if your the last one to remove the stove and reinstall it you take all responsibility for it. You go to jail if the house burns down killing your family......not the bodgy shop.

Like I say......the shops you've spoken to are bodgy cowboys. Don't understand why people come on a forum asking for advice and then ignore it and carry out an illegal installation.

I'd advise you read and understand part j of the building regs before going any further. It's all there in black and white.