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Why should public sector be better off?

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  • SandC
    SandC Posts: 3,929 Forumite
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    karens wrote: »
    I don't see why public sector people should retire at 60 (ha - long before this) and yet they still bleat away about being underpaid.
    Have they ever thought how much they would have to put away from a salary to get those pensions?? Most people can't afford ANY pension saving!?

    I have never worked in the public sector but I do know that they contribute quite substantially from their salary towards the good pensions they get. Did you think that it was free or something?
  • Mankysteve
    Mankysteve Posts: 4,257 Forumite
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    Both my rents are public sectors sectors. They both had the fore site to massively overpay there pension, Its makes life a wee bit harder now but it allows them to retire with a decent pension.

    Your nans lucky most likely when my generation gets to retirement there won't be a public pension.
  • God I hate to hear people like the OP spouting utter rubbish. My husband is in public sector and has to put 11% of his wages into his pension pot every month, I hardly call that an easy ride??

    I would love you to tell me how my husband and I are pampered?? Foolish woman should have thought before she wrote

    tut tut
  • Now that's what I call getting back to a good rant!

    :T
  • Kizzy001
    Kizzy001 Posts: 211 Forumite
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    OP - Public Sector workers work hard, yes there are some who don't but you get that everywhere. I work in the public sector, get paid little, have tons and tons of work to do, they keep making redundancies and do not employ more workers, currently i am doing the work of three full time staff, I pay into my pension and have done so since i started, i also pay my national insurance and tax, i have two kids, (three if you count the other half) , get no benefits, skimp and save every month to live, bills keep going higher and higher, i have no chance of retiring at 60..by the time i retire they would have increased that to about 90 seeing as we have "an aging population" and you think were "pampered"??. i'm getting a bit sick and tired of hearing everyone sl*ging off public sectors workers, we keep the system going, who clears your rubbish every week? who cleans your streets? fixes your roads, deals with your benefits? takes care of fires? patrol the streets? look after the sick and elderly? etc?? yes you pay your taxes for that to happen, but you still need workers to carry out the work and they all work hard, for not much money, some work very long hours and most get daily abuse from the public, but hopefully we get a better quality of life, maybe a better work life balance. So if they keep cutting jobs and cutting pay, no one will want to do these jobs and things will not get done.
    So again, we are not pampered, we do not get something for nothing, we work hard just like the rest of the population, so stop thinking that we have it easy.
  • the OP obviously read the Daily Mail, took it as factual, and based their post on it.

    you have a good 55years to prepare for your retirement, this goes for public and private sector workers. If your nan failed to prepare in all that time, then there is no-one else to blame. You can try and blame the public sector for your nan's mistake, but if you look at the actual facts, it will never stick.
  • SandC wrote: »
    I have never worked in the public sector but I do know that they contribute quite substantially from their salary towards the good pensions they get. Did you think that it was free or something?
    The employee does contribute, but the employer does not, the employer hopes that the future tax gains will pay their pensions, hence in my area, the deficit for the Police, and that is only shoing because it is on a separate account. For every £1 I pay for the Police, 38 pence goes to pay reitired officers!
  • Steer73
    Steer73 Posts: 93 Forumite
    Lets bash all Public sector workers because my Nan is not very well off.

    Lets bash MPs at the same time too - come on everyone - they were claiming for gold-plated duck moats at the same time as my Nan was washing the floors!
  • pimento
    pimento Posts: 6,243 Forumite
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    The average public sector pension in the UK is £3000 per annum. Hardly living the high life.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/local-government-network/2010/oct/26/what-will-happen-to-public-sector-pensions
    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." -- Red Adair
  • vyle
    vyle Posts: 2,379 Forumite
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    Oh quick thing that I always found amusing.

    At the time I started HMRC I was 18 and would have needed to work 42 years to draw my pension, or at least for it to be enough to 'live on' at 60. the dates and estimates were all taken pro rata.

    To work 40 years pro rata, due to my hours (based on disability) I would have needed to work for 86 and a half years to get my pension.

    I always found that quite amusing.
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