It's Bloody Cold Here - Is Global Warming All Over?

smeagold

andykn wrote: »

More flooding in Europe as once in a centruy events become once in a decade events, shifts in rainfall patterns causing disruption to world food production with probable high food inflation, the UK may actually get a colder climate if the gulf stream is affected (it's not called "climate change" by scientists for nothing) and all the other negative imapcts predicted by the scientists.

Nobody has yet proved this is caused by Co2, the activity of the sun is a far more probable cause but then they can't tax us on our use of the sun...can they?

andykn

ILW wrote: »

I find it very difficult to take any of the climate change cheerleaders seriously when they insist on flying off to conferences about the subject. Seems it is just a nice little earner for most of them.

So if a fat doctor told you that being overweight was a risk factor for heart disease you wouldn't believe him?

andykn

A._Badger wrote: »

The fact is we already know they cheat. Mann with the bogus 'hockey stick', Jones with his ludicrous 'hide the decline'.

But there's no point arguing with a warmist. It's not science - it's faith.

Mercifully they have lost the argument since their religion's predictions failed utterly to come true and all we have to do now is wait for the political classes to catch up.

Sadly Mann's supposedly "bogus" hockey stick has been reproduced 12 times by other teams of scientists.

That's science.

andykn

smeagold wrote: »

not sure which category that would be.

I remember vividely about 10 years ago when we were promised that the south of the uk should resemble the gobi desert by now.

You should get your science from scientists, not The Sun.

Nowhere are those sort of predictions in any of the IPCC reports.

smeagold

andykn wrote: »

Sadly Mann's supposedly "bogus" hockey stick has been reproduced 12 times by other teams of scientists.

That's science.

andykn

smeagold wrote: »

Nobody has yet proved this is caused by Co2, the activity of the sun is a far more probable cause but then they can't tax us on our use of the sun...can they?

No they can't. Here's why:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/07/the-lure-of-solar-forcing/

http://www.realclimate.org/damon&laut_2004.pdf

andykn

smeagold wrote: »

Er, that's entirely bogus. For a start, there's no scale on the Y axis. And Mann and Harris aren't -ologists.

It doesn't even agree with your other graph, you've managed to contradict your self in the space of two posts.

THE_GHOULS_OF_GREED

Can't believe there are still muppets out there who try and dispute climate change. You're the type of mentally challenged who always claimed the Earth was flat. But it's not your fault you don't have the wherewithal or intelligence to pick up, comprehend, and accurately analyse data, or read and digest the academic papers. No the limits of your research goes; oh it's a bit chilly today = climate change is proven bollox. Even your single brain cells are wasted on you.

LilacPixie

Thundersnow

smeagold

THE_GHOULS_OF_GREED wrote: »

Can't believe there are still muppets out there who try and dispute climate change. You're the type of mentally challenged who always claimed the Earth was flat. But it's not your fault you don't have the wherewithal or intelligence to pick up, comprehend, and accurately analyse data, or read and digest the academic papers. No the limits of your research goes; oh it's a bit chilly today = climate change is proven bollox. Even your single brain cells are wasted on you.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/3277--international-conference-of-scientists-to-challenge-global-warming-alarmism

The Heartland Institute's fourth International Conference on Climate Change is scheduled to take place in Chicago May 16-18 and will feature more than 27 foreign experts from a dozen nations.
"Global-warming alarmism is in retreat all around the world," observed James M. Taylor, director of the conference. "Public polling data show a global decline in climate-change fears, and nations around the world are pulling back on their willingness to subject citizens to carbon dioxide rationing. Presenters at the fourth International Conference on Climate Change will present facts that confirm the wisdom of the public's rejection of carbon dioxide restrictions."

Among the leading climate scientists and economists from abroad are:
* Dr. Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of the Space Research Laboratory at the Pulkovo Observatory and head of the Russian segment of the International Space Station.
* Dr. Gabriel Calzada, associate professor of economics at King Juan Carlos University in Spain and director of applied economics courses at the Environmental Science Faculty. Dr. Calzada authored a 2009 study that showed two private-sector jobs in Spain were pre-empted out of existence for every purported "green" job created by new government policies.
* Dr. Eigil Friis-Christensen, director of the Danish National Space Institute at the Technical University of Denmark.
* Dr. Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, theoretical physicist at the National Autonomous University of Mexico.
* Andrei Illarionov, who served six years, ending in 2005, as chief economic advisor to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
* Stephen McIntyre, editor of Climate Audit, the Canadian website that was instrumental in revealing severe problems in data that recreated past global temperatures.
* Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner, emeritus professor of paleogeophysics and geodynamics at Stockholm University, Sweden.
* Dr. Ian Plimer, chairman of Mining Geology at the University of Adelaide in Australia and emeritus professor of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne.


http://globalwarminghoax.wordpress.com/2007/05/19/green-myths-on-global-warming-%E2%80%94-debunked/

There is no evidence to prove CO2 causes global warming. its a theory. An unproven theory. Simple.