MSE News: Train fares to rise by 6.2% in January

geordieracer

armitageshankss wrote: »

I am all for a train strike as i have to travel on trains 5 days a week and 80% of the times the train is late, overcrowded or simply cancelled. I have also experienced the poor service provided by staff at the station i travel from. I understand that ticket prices have to rise at some point, but why should passengers have to put up with paying so much, for such a poor service? Train Free Day - I'll be on the bus that day and good luck to the people behind it.

Would love to know where you get your figures from.. Your saying that your TOC only delivers 20% performance figures? What a crock of !!!!.

wealdroam

aembleton wrote: »

Does anyone know which day in January the fare increases go through?

I am trying to decide if it is worth me buying an annual pass now, or to wait until 4 January as I won't be using it for two weeks over Christmas.

Don't leave it until the 4th January.

I think the fare increases take effect from Sunday 2nd January.

gazfocus

6.2% increase is obsurd. Maybe if they didn't offer such heavily discounted advance tickets, they wouldn't be left needing more money. And they wonder why people use cars........

wealdroam

gazfocus wrote: »

6.2% increase is obsurd. Maybe if they didn't offer such heavily discounted advance tickets, they wouldn't be left needing more money. And they wonder why people use cars........

6.2% is an average.

Read here about some of the larger percentage increases. :eek:

Simon11

"Maybe if they didn't offer such heavily discounted advance tickets, they wouldn't be left needing more money. "

That sentence is utter rubbish. The cheapest tickets are only offered on the quiet services. If you have an empty trains, with costs for example £100 to run an hour, its better to have an extra bum on a seat paying £5 than nothing?

Advance tickets are the best way to reduce overcrowding. By TOC's offering cheaper advance tickets on popular services, some customers might switch to quieter trains to save money and also reduce overcrowding.

One of the reasons that the number of rail passengers on the railways has increased so much is due to advance tickets, so please don't slate Advance tickets unless you know the full picture....

tripled

aembleton wrote: »

Does anyone know which day in January the fare increases go through?

I am trying to decide if it is worth me buying an annual pass now, or to wait until 4 January as I won't be using it for two weeks over Christmas.

Sun 2nd Jan on my route, I assume it's the same nationally. So to dodge the increase you'd have to start your ticket on 1st Jan, working out if the 3 unused days outweighed the increase (on a monthly/weekly ticket probably not, unless it's a big rise).

Play with the dates and work out the fare difference here...

http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/en/s/seasonticket/calculator

I'm either going to move house or jobs in the new year. The diesel to get me to the station is going up, the rail fare is going up... luckily my wages should rise, but probably less in cash terms than the extra costs!

geordieracer

tripled wrote: »

Sun 2nd Jan on my route, I assume it's the same nationally. So to dodge the increase you'd have to start your ticket on 1st Jan, working out if the 3 unused days outweighed the increase (on a monthly/weekly ticket probably not, unless it's a big rise).

Play with the dates and work out the fare difference here...

http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/en/s/seasonticket/calculator

I'm either going to move house or jobs in the new year. The diesel to get me to the station is going up, the rail fare is going up... luckily my wages should rise, but probably less in cash terms than the extra costs!

its worth buying it on the first or even the 31st of December.. You only pay for 40 weeks anyway when you buy a yearly season ticket

feisty1985

I travel from Beckenham to London (London Zone 1-4) and buy a rail-only ticket.

Why is it, that despite the appauling service i've received from both Southeastern and First (how are they still in business) Capital Connect that my fares are rising as follows:

7 days £25.00 up to £28.20
1 month £96.00 up to £108.30
12 months £1000.00 up to £1128.00
(based on national rail fares web link)

Now by my calculations that is a 12.8% increase! What's going on?!

Livingthedream

feisty1985 wrote: »

Now by my calculations that is a 12.8% increase! What's going on?!

The 6.2% quoted by MSE guy was the average % rise, some routes will increase by a lower % but other routes will have a larger increase.

Whys this you may ask, well the cynic in me thinks its because certain train companies know that they can get away with it.

feisty1985

Yes it is the average but MSE also says Southeastern is 7.8% but mines definitely more.

Does anyone know the rules on season tickets (rail only) - can you use them on any trains within the same zones or same rail company or does it have to be the exact stations specified on the ticket?

To be it seems a bit outrageous that i should have to pay again to take a different route home if it's the same company and the stations 300 yards from my usual one.