Praise for the security guard and staff in Tesco.

katerinasol

richardvc wrote: »

Normally security are feeble old men or young thick fat skinhead geezers who think they're Police (but on minimum wage) - well that's how it is in our local Tesco !!

Sorry to sound petty but I very much doubt they're on minimum wage. I'm not sure if it's the same with Tesco, but the doormen I knew that work in pubs/clubs are on at least £10 an hour.

KierNet

richardvc wrote: »

Normally security are feeble old men or young thick fat skinhead geezers who think they're Police (but on minimum wage) - well that's how it is in our local Tesco !!

They get more than me, and I'm not on min wage! First part might be true though lol. That said, your mouth is the best weapon someone has.

CWCDiver

In my general experience most security guards who work in the retail sector are utter dross. Our local supermarket employs some real useless specimens who are either too large and old to do anything or too young and scared. The last time I was in there at the weekend I ended up arresting someone for offensive weapons and the child in the security costume was useless.

biggaz26

I cant stand all this let them take it its not worth getting hurt over...

I dont care if someone is trying to steal something worth 50p or £500 they are trying to deprive me of MY property....Im not gonna let that happen....the fact that people let these things happen to themselve and stand idley by while it happens to others is why it happens so much more...

Try grabbing my phone off me and Ill see how many bones i can break in you hand before I let go.

G

Naturlee

Glad someone could fight off a criminal!

vyle

katerinasol wrote: »

Sorry to sound petty but I very much doubt they're on minimum wage. I'm not sure if it's the same with Tesco, but the doormen I knew that work in pubs/clubs are on at least £10 an hour.

My father in law has just got his security license, and there are very different levels of security. You've got general store security who are on sales assistant wage, can't touch anybody, and are used mainly for being the eyes on the ground when cops are looking for a thief (once they've stolen enough for it to be worth their while). You've then got the agency security, like what Tesco and most other supermarkets have started using. These are much like normal shop security, but some may have their license to be able to use 'reasonable force,' but I believe their job terms tell them not to, because the employer doesn't want the legal risk. Because there are so many security firms trying to undercut each other, when my FIL applied for a job as a tesco security guy, he was told the job was £6ph. This meant that the company would have made 6p an hour profit for every guard. That agency, though, despite advertising loads of jobs, didn't even get the contract. Their competitor did, and they WERE charging minimum wage and making less profit an hour. Then you've got the club/pub door men, who are usually allowed to exercise their discretion, probably will have to rough some people up, and do get paid a lot, because they are licensed to do nearly everything the police can do.

upallnighteatingcheese

I remember when I was at school I worked part time at nights and weekends stacking shelfs in a local supermarket.
We were told that whenever someone announced "report 10" over the tanoy system it meant that there was something kicking off at the checkouts and all male members of staff were to report immediately.

Basically they had one security guy on part time and so wanted to use schoolkids and whoever else was available to confront shoplifters etc

Unfortunatly, this sytem recieved the contempt it deserved (using kids to madhandle junkies?) and the manager of said store was severely disliked. i.e we would work till 10.30pm but only get paid till 9 as we 'weren't working fast enough' etc etc

One weekend (I wasn't working) the manager confronted a shoplifter at the checkouts who flipped out and started assaulting him. The 'report 10' call went out and not one person showed up to help. If i recall correctly he walked away with a broken arm and bruises.

I can't say there was much sympathy for him and the whole 'report 10' thing seemed to dissapear after that.

And this wasn't some local self start supermarket, this was a large national chain in the 90's.

katerinasol

vyle wrote: »

My father in law has just got his security license, and there are very different levels of security. You've got general store security who are on sales assistant wage, can't touch anybody, and are used mainly for being the eyes on the ground when cops are looking for a thief (once they've stolen enough for it to be worth their while). You've then got the agency security, like what Tesco and most other supermarkets have started using. These are much like normal shop security, but some may have their license to be able to use 'reasonable force,' but I believe their job terms tell them not to, because the employer doesn't want the legal risk. Because there are so many security firms trying to undercut each other, when my FIL applied for a job as a tesco security guy, he was told the job was £6ph. This meant that the company would have made 6p an hour profit for every guard. That agency, though, despite advertising loads of jobs, didn't even get the contract. Their competitor did, and they WERE charging minimum wage and making less profit an hour. Then you've got the club/pub door men, who are usually allowed to exercise their discretion, probably will have to rough some people up, and do get paid a lot, because they are licensed to do nearly everything the police can do.

That's quite interesting, I didn't know about the different levels. Club/pub doormen are very much open to lawsuits as well though, most of the ones I knew had some sort of criminal record for throwing drunk squaddies outside.

Can't say I see much point of 'general store security'!

Storck

As far as I know all security staff, either agency or internal, have to have a current SIA licence. That is for both store and or nightclubs/bars.

drussellh

katerinasol wrote: »

That's quite interesting, I didn't know about the different levels. Club/pub doormen are very much open to lawsuits as well though, most of the ones I knew had some sort of criminal record for throwing drunk squaddies outside.

Can't say I see much point of 'general store security'!

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