teenagers paying board ?

Oldernotwiser

paddedjohn wrote: »

well maybe you could afford to keep your kids and thats great but the ops mum is on a low income and the op gets about £50 per week dla which is obviously not needed for any special requirements.
The op sounds like a spoilt brat to me and should pay up

If the family is on a low income they will receive around £70 per week in CB and CTC; surely that is enough to cover her keep? This funding is available until the age of 20 if the student is in the appropriate level of education.

Oldernotwiser

onlyroz wrote: »

On what knowledge are you basing this? I don't know anyone who has been told in an interview "sorry you didn't work in tescos while studying for your degree so I'll give the job to someone who did, even though you scored better than them in your exams"

More important than working in Tescos is being fully involved in university life. Voluntary work, involvement in organisations and societies is what employers look for rather than part time shop work.

(Although that doesn't mean that students shouldn't work a few hours a week if money is tight.)

onlyroz

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

More important than working in Tescos is being fully involved in university life. Voluntary work, involvement in organisations and societies is what employers look for rather than part time shop work.

(Although that doesn't mean that students shouldn't work a few hours a week if money is tight.)

Couldn't agree more. I got involved in the student newspaper, and I did voluntary work in local primary schools when I was an undergrad. Another friend ran the dramatic society, and another one spent her time winning archery competitions. Surely this sort of thing shows off your well rounded talents better than shop work.

blueeyez_2

when i was younger i was on the old yts £33 then i had to pay my parents £15 of that while living there.

now my own daughter 17 in full time collage and does st john she wants to be a army medic she get ema £30aweek which she has, i also give her £10 week for a bus pass i still buy her clothes, yes at the end of the month close to getting out wtc and ctc.

i feel the pinch but while getting child beneift for her while she's in collage and untill she's 19 then i will continue to help her achive her goal the best way i can with less stress as possable.

all chidren are different while some are learning to crawl others are running some just need that extra time and help to find there way in life surely there's enough time for them to feel the presure of the big old world

bestpud

onlyroz wrote: »

On what knowledge are you basing this? I don't know anyone who has been told in an interview "sorry you didn't work in tescos while studying for your degree so I'll give the job to someone who did, even though you scored better than them in your exams"

Good grief, I'm beginning to think we are talking a different language here!

What I am saying is, a student who has only studied for a degree and done nothing else whatsoever, may well be disadvantaged when the come to look for work.

Employers do expect students to have done something other than study during their three years at university. I know students with excellent degrees who have been unable to find a job they want after university and I do believe the CV is important.

You said you would not push your child into 'work' and then went on to say how valuable work experience can be. That bit we agree on. You did not say you would not force them to do menial work in order to support the household. You just said you would not force them to 'work' and I said that is a moot point as 'work' can be useful!

My point is, a student is better off getting any work experience than doing nothing at all - your post suggested full time students should simply study.

Since I pointed out there is time to work, you've gone on to say how you filled your degree with extra activities and work, so you actually agree with what I was saying! Work is important!!

What we diagree on is whether students should be expected to contribute to the household if there is a need and whether menial work has any value whatsoever.

In an ideal world, every student could forget about earning money, but for some students, a part time job is a necessity and it will not harm them at all in the long run.

I will say it again to be clear:

If a student would otherwise do nothing but study, then a part time job of any kind will be an improvement when they come to write a CV. I read your post as implying you would not expect your child to do any work at all!

If a family cannpt afford to support a student then it will do them no harm to get a part time job. There is time for this and they can still get a good degree and gain other valuable experience.

In an ideal world, every parent would be able to support their child through university and allow them to go off and get relevent experience in all sorts of things. Unfortunately, we do not live in an ideal world and I disagree that a parent is somehow unworthy, or should not have had children because that child has to do a part time job while at university.

Jeez, plenty of mature students get a first class degree while running a home, looking after children, working part time and doing extra activities to enhance their CV. But you say a foot loose and fancy free 18 year old cannot manage to do a part time job, study and fit in extra curricular activities...?

I think your point stands for FE as I believe it is right we 'keep' them at that stage. Once they are at uni and receiving money for their keep, I think they should hand some of that over if they remain living at home. That is what it's for, after all.

I wouldn't charge rent while they were home during the holidays as such, but I'd expect them to find work of some kind as I believe that helps them in the long run. Even if it is working in a corner shop, it beats sitting on their butts for four months of the year!

bestpud

blueeyez wrote: »

when i was younger i was on the old yts £33 then i had to pay my parents £15 of that while living there.

now my own daughter 17 in full time collage and does st john she wants to be a army medic she get ema £30aweek which she has, i also give her £10 week for a bus pass i still buy her clothes, yes at the end of the month close to getting out wtc and ctc.

i feel the pinch but while getting child beneift for her while she's in collage and untill she's 19 then i will continue to help her achive her goal the best way i can with less stress as possable.

all chidren are different while some are learning to crawl others are running some just need that extra time and help to find there way in life surely there's enough time for them to feel the presure of the big old world

I completely agree with everything you say. I did the same for mine at that stage.

But, what if she goes onto university and receives student loans/grants etc for living costs and you no longer receive anything for her, but she chooses to live at home...?

Will you consider yourself a bad parent if you ask her to contribute towards her keep then?

You are feeling the pinch now so will you still feel she should keep all her money and not help out at all?

Because that's what I'm talking about.

Pippa369

i think if youre parents are asking for your contribution to household bills etc then you should no matter how little it is. I know from my experience that it made me feel quite proud that i could help them out when they were struggling even if it was just £20.

blueeyez_2

bestpud wrote: »

I completely agree with everything you say. I did the same for mine at that stage.

But, what if she goes onto university and receives student loans/grants etc for living costs and you no longer receive anything for her, but she chooses to live at home...?

Will you consider yourself a bad parent if you ask her to contribute towards her keep then?

You are feeling the pinch now so will you still feel she should keep all her money and not help out at all?

Because that's what I'm talking about.

not sure with the this way there are with the government will there be a change in loans/grant money who knows.

hopefully the ones who really do need help still get it and dont get stopped from going onto uni just because there born into a poorer household than other peers of theres.

i would like to live in hope that could give her the surport she still needed at least for the next 2yrs as long she's in full time ed as i would still get the money to help me do this, after that hopefully help when needed cant say i'd stop helping just wouldent be able to do all i do now but who knows there always the lotto :rotfl:

i still have 2 other children one who's enrolling in collage sept term with wanting to become a pe teacher.

bestpud

blueeyez wrote: »

not sure with the this way there are with the government will there be a change in loans/grant money who knows.

hopefully the ones who really do need help still get it and dont get stopped from going onto uni just because there born into a poorer household than other peers of theres.

i would like to live in hope that could give her the surport she still needed at least for the next 2yrs as long she's in full time ed as i would still get the money to help me do this, after that hopefully help when needed cant say i'd stop helping just wouldent be able to do all i do now but who knows there always the lotto :rotfl:

i still have 2 other children one who's enrolling in collage sept term with wanting to become a pe teacher.

I think funding will remain in place for poorer students tbh. The increases are not upfront costs so little will change in the short term.

The worst off students are those from better off households whose parents won't help them out imo.

If she were living at home and receiving student finance, chances are you'd be helping a lot against the cost of student accommodation and living expenses.

Even those who ask for rent only tend to ask for a fraction of the equivalent market rate. Most parents I know ask for around £20-30 a week but what on earth would that buy in the real world? It wouldn't buy half a single room in student accommodation, that's for sure.

I rely on winning the lottery too, but it's a big hope given I don't every buy a ticket! :rotfl:

rmiller

I think it would be considerate of you to give something, even if it's not a lot. You're parents would probably see it as a very grown up thing to do. Also, would you be able to get a small part time job at the weekend? No long hours, just a little something to get a bit more income?

Don't forget, they've probably spent a lot on you over the last few years and times are tough for everyone!

Hope this helps!