Are agency's destroying this country ?

jay_1978

Not that I am having a go at immigrants but this hasn't helped the situation, Agency's can get someone from Eastern Europe who holds a FLT license and pay them minimum wage and I then have no option but to do it for the same price or I don't work, Not long ago I could earn £7.50 a hour, Sadly I will never see that wage again.

CCFC_80

hartcjhart wrote: »

so you would want to throw MORE people on the dole because YOU have had a bad experience?grow up.
plent of people make a decent living via agencies,I personally make a fantastic living,BUT there would be NO chance of working direct for the company.

1 company that I worked for years ago used to take the 'temps' direct on to their books BUt again it was on a short term contract which meant they only had to give 1 weeks notice

So then you're admitting that if there were no agencies,you would be out of work as the company would not want to employ you directly even on a short term contract. So that means the company cannot afford to pay you a decent wage but the agency can offer you a lower wage by paying a pittance. Thirty years ago you wouldn't have even found the term Employment Agency in the dictionary and workers were much better off with job security,wages and employment conditions etc. Employment agencies exist so that employers can abuse and exploit the jobless.

cavework

jay_1978
10 years ago I would have been paying my temps with a fork lift license up to £10 per hour dependant on shifts.
You could not get FLT qualified people for love nor money and as for qualified ' Cherry pickers?' they were in huge demand

CCFC_80

jay_1978 wrote: »

Not that I am having a go at immigrants but this hasn't helped the situation, Agency's can get someone from Eastern Europe who holds a FLT license and pay them minimum wage and I then have no option but to do it for the same price or I don't work, Not long ago I could earn £7.50 a hour, Sadly I will never see that wage again.

Yes your right,due to the flood of Eastern Europeans the hourly rate of pay for most unskilled workers has reduced significantly over the past few years. Perhaps it would not be a bad idea to introduce an extra agency tax where every foreign/eastern european that agencies prefer to take on they would have to pay an extra £1.00 an hour to the government,

cavework

andy46 wrote: »

So then you're admitting that if there were no agencies,you would be out of work as the company would not want to employ you directly even on a short term contract. So that means the company cannot afford to pay you a decent wage but the agency can offer you a lower wage by paying a pittance. Thirty years ago you wouldn't have even found the term Employment Agency in the dictionary and workers were much better off with job security,wages and employment conditions etc. Employment agencies exist so that employers can abuse and exploit the jobless.

Oh FGS employment agencies have been around forever, even through the ' good times' when people could leave one job and go directly to another.
Agencies work almost under the same rules as employers but you have the choice to take it or leave it.

jay_1978

WOW £10 a hour, That's a brilliant rate. I worked for a company 5 years ago and I was on £7.50 a hour. I hold a C/B and Reach license and It is still impossible now to get £7 a hour, Agency's are actually recruiting people for minimum wage and you have to hold both licenses, That really is a !!!! take to me

cavework wrote: »

jay_1978
10 years ago I would have been paying my temps with a fork lift license up to £10 per hour dependant on shifts.
You could not get FLT qualified people for love nor money and as for qualified ' Cherry pickers?' they were in huge demand

jay_1978

I totally agree, Agency's need some kind of incentive to employ British workers,

andy46 wrote: »

Yes your right,due to the flood of Eastern Europeans the hourly rate of pay for most unskilled workers has reduced significantly over the past few years. Perhaps it would not be a bad idea to introduce an extra agency tax where every foreign/eastern european that agencies prefer to take on they would have to pay an extra £1.00 an hour to the government,

cavework

OK .. I am an employer who has someone on long term sickness absence . No idea how long they will be absent.
I go to an agency to cover this term of absence as no one from the job centre wants to work for a company who can't tell them how long they may be employed for .. 1 week or 3 months

The agency can only work on weekly invoices to my company as it is one temp for an un established period of time. they have to cover their costs and as a business I can understand they cannot work on 30 days from DOI.
As a company what are we expected to do? Our remaining staff are paid monthly but using the agency means we pay the temp bill on a weekly agreement before we are paid by our clients ..
IT IS CALLED CASH FLOW and nothing to do with greedy companies taking the 'P' out of agency staff.

cavework

jay_1978 wrote: »

WOW £10 a hour, That's a brilliant rate. I worked for a company 5 years ago and I was on £7.50 a hour. I hold a C/B and Reach license and It is still impossible now to get £7 a hour, Agency's are actually recruiting people for minimum wage and you have to hold both licenses, That really is a !!!! take to me

That is what we paid and charge aprox £15 an hour as an agency,
But that was in the 1990,s ..Qualified FLT and Reach were highly valued

cavework

jay_1978 wrote: »

I totally agree, Agency's need some kind of incentive to employ British workers,

PMSL .. Agencys are employers .. taking this suggestion into account could I as an employer claim an incentive if the person I employ means I get an incentive if they are British?
OMG I would not even dare go down that route! :eek: